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CMS 2022 #2896
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Calling the 2021 CMS super team!: @alonkochba @alankent @andreylipattsev @logicalphase @saterchris @rviscomi @TosinArasi Are any of you interested in contributing again this year? Also can any of you suggest potential authors/reviewers/analysts who have domain expertise in the CMS space that might make good contributors? Would love if you could reach out and/or tag suggestions here to see if we can get new people involved! |
I'm an analyst under the SEO section, but we have plenty of help over there. I can help with CMS as an analyst here as well. I've used and built sites for wordpress, joomla, hubspot, drupal, shopify, ghost, contentful, magento, django, and Adobe experience manager so I should have the domain experience here. |
Excellent, would love to have you on board @csliva ! |
Hi @tunetheweb I'm happy to help with this. I can help with some content about headless CMS space. (Note: I'm currently doing https://github.com/contember which is a headless CMS so would need good reviewers to not introduce some bias into this chapter.) Otherwise I've got 16 years of experience building websites. Including CMSes like Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, Strapi, Directus, Sylius (not so much a cms), Prismic, Netlify CMS, .... |
Thanks @honzasladek , presume you're looking to author / co-author the chapter then? |
@tunetheweb I'm happy to serve as lead author. I spoke with @alexdenning and he's happy to be a reviewer. @honzasladek, if you're up for it, I'd love to work with you as a reviewer - your experience in a wide range of CMS and the fact that you're focused now on Contember would bring some great perspective into the mix. |
Great to see the CMS chapter having an author. I can also assist in reviewing and anything you want to know about last year's chapter or data. |
@sirjonathan Sounds great, happy to participate as a reviewer! |
Thank you for agreeing to be the lead @sirjonathan !! One of the first thing's I'll hand over to you @sirjonathan is maintenance of the first comment at the top of this issue. If you could ensure that's kept up to date with contributors that join and leave, be aware of the milestones and dates, and tick off each of these as you complete them. We have an overall Web Almanac issue tracker, that's automatically driven based on the info in that comment. And since we now have a full team, you can no tick off Milestone 0! And @sirjonathan @alexdenning @alonkochba @honzasladek and @csliva if you could all request access to the CMS doc and start brainstorming ideas of what you want to include in the chapter. We also have the HTTP Archive CMS slack channel if you could all join that? It would be good to review previous years chapters and data to get a sense of what we're looking to create here:
Some tips and advice from me, if I may be so bold:
Many chapters find it helpful to have a kick off call with the team - to put faces to names, and introduce yourselves. I'\m happy to join that if you want to set it up @sirjonathan ? I'll be keeping a close eye on the chapter and feel free to reach out to me here/Slack/Twitter/Email if you have any questions or thoughts. |
If I am not too late, I am happy to contribute as Author or Analyst. My experience and bio can be found here: https://byaman.com/about/ |
Thanks @amandeepsinghvirdi! I'll defer to @sirjonathan as the content team lead to fit you in as needed. Meanwhile, request access to the chapter planning doc and add any ideas to the outline. |
@amandeepsinghvirdi has since agreed to take on Ecommerce lead so not sure if the offer is still there as might be busy with that one. |
@sirjonathan @alexdenning @alonkochba @honzasladek @csliva reminder to access the planning doc and start adding your ideas to the outline. What's new with CMS this year, or what topics would be interesting to revisit from previous years? We're hoping to have the outline completed by May 15 to give us enough time to add any needed custom metrics to the June crawl before it kicks off. Thanks! Would it also be helpful to have a video chat to introduce yourselves to each other? Here's a suggested agenda some of the other chapters are using for that: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nqPjvY0zg2YJda3ghIJuvVaSeY_wbz_nwBK15tHULsg/edit?usp=sharing I'm happy to attend anything you all set up. I'm UK timezone, but reasonably flexible. |
@sirjonathan @alexdenning @alonkochba @honzasladek @csliva we still don't have a draft outline so have missed our 15th May deadline. This means the chances of adding any NEW data to the 1st June crawl is getting slimmer by the day (since we don't yet know what we want to capture) so you may have to just rely on the existing data that HTTP Archive already collects. But , it's still not too late. So I would suggest:
Happy to answer any questions on any of this! |
@tunetheweb Thank you for the reminders and the support! I've been gathering notes / ideas over the past week and reviewing the previous years results. I will make sure the outline is drafted and ready for review this week. Also, @dknauss who serves as Editor over at Post Status, is up for being a reviewer. |
Sent you an invite to the GitHub org @dknauss so you can edit issues and the like. |
@tunetheweb I've updated the draft doc with an outline, using last year as a starting point. I've added a few questions as comments within the doc that I'd love feedback on. (FYI, @alexdenning @alonkochba @honzasladek @csliva @dknauss - take a look when you're able and add your questions / comments directly to the doc) No changes in queries from last year stand out to me. One thing I am curious about is if we can include some comparisons to Shopify or, perhaps more efficiently, we could do some collaboration with the Ecommerce chapter team. |
Hey all, apologies I've been a bit quiet lately, but been travelling and not had too much Almanac time lately. How are we looking now? Milestone 2's date has passed by quite a bit now, but the crawl is still going on (not sure if you saw Rick's update on Slack in the Web Almanac channel?), so that gives us a bit of time to catch up. We didn't need to add any new Custom Metrics for this chapter, so we just need to open a draft PR with a list of queries to write to complete that Milestone (note you do not need to have the queries written to complete Milestone 2 - just have a list of them). You can see example open PRs for the other chapters already open. As it looks like you're just currently planning to reuse last year's queries that should be an easy task! @csilva as the analyst for this chapter can you do this? You can also copy all the queries from
That definitely should be possible. Should just be a matter of replacing: WHERE category = 'CMS' with: WHERE category = 'CMS' or App = 'Shopify' Just need to decide if you want to run all queries with this, or only some of them? Or perhaps you want to run some or all queries twice (once with this, once without) to allow comparison to pervious years for some metrics? |
Thanks for the directions @tunetheweb. I'll go ahead and get that PR drafted. I will also see what we can do about platforms like Shopify. Shopify includes a blog and it is very much in the game for Content Management. |
Friendly ping on that draft PR @csliva . Most of the chapters have their draft open now. |
Hey @sirjonathan and @csliva, just to let you know that the data is all ready to start querying, so you can start writing (and even running) your queries. Ones that are straight copies of last year you can probably just run (with the updated dates of course), but if you do come up with any new ones, then might wanna ping the other analysts (including myself!) to have a quick review before running the full query (unless it's a very small, quick table in which case go right ahead). Do reach out if you've any questions or need any help. Looking forward to seeing what insights you find! |
Hey y'all. The draft is ready for review and per discussion with @csliva, we're slated to have all feedback incorporated and the text complete by Friday, September 9, in order to allow sufficient time for markdown generation for the 15th deadline. Overall, I've kept the structure from last year, simplifying in a few places and adding additional data where we have it (in particular, the Page Builders section). Of the current draft, two items remain from my perspective:
@alexdenning @alonkochba @dknauss @honzasladek Would you review the draft over the next few days and add in any comments or suggestions you have? I'll monitor your feedback throughout the week and then submit my final pass on Friday. Thank y'all for your help! |
CMS 2022
If you're interested in contributing to the CMS chapter of the 2022 Web Almanac, please reply to this issue and indicate which role or roles best fit your interest and availability: author, reviewer, analyst, and/or editor.
Content team
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Note: The time commitment for each role varies by the chapter's scope and complexity as well as the number of contributors.
For an overview of how the roles work together at each phase of the project, see the Chapter Lifecycle doc.
Milestone checklist
0. Form the content team
1. Plan content
2. Gather data
3. Validate results
4. Draft content
5. Publication
Chapter resources
Refer to these 2022 CMS resources throughout the content creation process:
📄 Google Docs for outlining and drafting content
🔍 SQL files for committing the queries used during analysis
📊 Google Sheets for saving the results of queries
📝 Markdown file for publishing content and managing public metadata
💬 #web-almanac-cms on Slack for team coordination
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