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Website font doesn’t support Cyrillic italics #585

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msklvsk opened this issue Nov 3, 2018 · 16 comments
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Website font doesn’t support Cyrillic italics #585

msklvsk opened this issue Nov 3, 2018 · 16 comments
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@msklvsk
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msklvsk commented Nov 3, 2018

[update] Upstream bug: adobe-fonts/source-sans#87.

The website font, Source Sans Pro, is actually missing italic glyphs for Cyrillic.

As seen on Google Fonts:
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(To be fair, it has an л.)

Google Chrome fallbacks in the docs to Arial:

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While Safari has gaps!

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@dan-zeman
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Oh dear. This issue would ideally be for @spyysalo but I am not sure that he is reachable at present.

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fginter commented Nov 3, 2018

I can also give it a stab, but am at EMNLP now, and don't have a computer with me so it will take till next week.

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fginter commented Nov 3, 2018

If you can propose a substitute font that would be great. I don't have Safari so it's hard to test.

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fginter commented Nov 3, 2018

https://github.com/UniversalDependencies/docs/blob/pages-source/css/style.css

this is the place but I don't dare mess with it right now because I cannot test

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Agreed that the best thing is to test (also) in Safari but in fact the first problem is that the current font lacks the Cyrillic italic glyphs. So e.g. in Chrome/Windows, you can see the letters but they are visually different from the Latin ones, so it is obvious that a substitution is needed.

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fginter commented Nov 3, 2018

sure thing. but messing with the font settings from my mobile phone is a recipe for disaster, so I fix this one I am at a computer. If anyone wants to recommend a new font, now is the time. How about comic sans? 😁

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dseddah commented Nov 3, 2018

you're kidding but Comic Sans is one of the best fonts for dyslexic people. (really, apparently it's super readable)

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Roboto or Montserrat would be my first choice.

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msklvsk commented Nov 4, 2018

Top 5 popular Google fonts, rendered in Chrome on a retina Mac

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Open Sans

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Roboto

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Montserrat

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PT Sans

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Noto Sans

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Noto Sans seems to have a problem with rendering the back apostrophes around nsubj (looks like a grave accent above n).

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@msklvsk could you please check whether these fonts also have italic glyphs for Greek and Armenian? (I just added examples of both to the Style Guidelines.)

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msklvsk commented Nov 4, 2018

Actually, none of them have Armenian at all. If we choose to switch to any of those, Armenian will remain as it currently is for your platform. Only two of them have Greek. Noto Sans is disqualified.

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Open Sans

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Roboto

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Montserrat

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PT Sans

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dan-zeman commented Nov 4, 2018

Ok, out of this selection, OpenSans seems to have better coverage than the rest, although it misses italics+bold.

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msklvsk commented Nov 4, 2018

For my last screenshots, I just took first 4 faces. All the fonts have bold italics, see Which in the previous comparison.

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fginter commented Nov 6, 2018

Better now? Note: you may need to hard-reload to get rid of cached css.

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msklvsk commented Nov 12, 2018

It must be personal, but Open Sans puts some strain on my eyes. Even dorky Roboto is a smoother read. I wonder if anyone feels the same. If you don’t mind platform differences, you can also use respective system fonts like GitHub does.

@dan-zeman dan-zeman added this to the v2.4 milestone Nov 13, 2018
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