Make some new editor looks that reflect how cool, awesome Godot is . .

[jasperbrooks79]

Describe the project you are working on

A Tomb raider game <3

Describe the problem or limitation you are having in your project

Well, Godot is amazing, does well, just blimey amazing . . But, I feel in a small way, the editor looks too ' simple ', or basic . . And, the node icons, it sort of looks like a ' cheap ', or phone app, for people not used, to computers :O . .

Now, I'm a bit, of a 'hard - core' nerd, and I think it could be amazing, if we got a 'hard-core' editor look, one could load, like a theme, I guess best examples are more serious software . . imo, this would give a ' nicer ' feeling, when one wants to make an AA or, AAA game :OO . . and, give you a hint, this engine CAN deliver, results . . . I also think, since I'm a HUGE geek <3 that it'd be nice, if there was a techno-electro look, or so . . as well, also, as a ' more ' hard - core, awesome look <3 . . .

When I look at the editor, it almost looks like, it is made, to do ' kids ' games, or for some young teens . . . . the icons are so friendly, it looks like the engine isn't that ' cool ', or so on . . I'm not sure WHAT such an alternate editor look would be, and the default one, people know, should be the ' default ' one . . but, I want to make some kick - ass games, that ' REALLY ' rock, and I feel in a way, the program isn't ' capable ' of doing that, like I can make, sorry, Mario or, Sonic in it, that's that . .

I guess I'd like, that the engine had a ' hard - core ' look or, 'visual' . . and, that the icons were more bad-ass, just over-all, it looked ' rock - solid ', performant, more . .

I realize this might be ' close ', to having a ' commercial ' word ( bad, bad . . ! ) but, that's not what I'm asking for, just that it looks a bit more hard-core, adult, felt ' cool ' :O . . It's a fine line, not sure how to explain it . . But, I'd like the editor to be able to look, like I'd feel at ' home ', as a grown nerd, like it's ' Heaven ', for adult, mature geeks <3 . . of course, the default look should be standard, maybe it could be added as an option, or so . . :OO

I don't want a ' commercial ' look, just a more competent, ' nerdy ', or cool look, or so . . Some-thing, where you don't feel it's ' commercial ', but that nice ' hard - core ' feeling, or so . . So, when you boot the engine, you feel it can do anything, or close <3 . . Like, it's hard-core geeky software, really nice, amazing . . <3 <3

Describe the feature / enhancement and how it helps to overcome the problem or limitation

Not sure, right now I just feel, the engine user-interface is telling me, this is not really for hard-core, 'serious', well-running, optimized games, or so . . it's like, it's aimed at kids, young teens, and that's all it can do . . Was hoping, not we get a ' commercial ' look, which is something different, but maybe a ' Godot Hardcore ' alternate look, with ' nicer ' icons, or interface . . :OO

But, instead of thinking ' commercial engine ', just think, a ' hard - core ', geek paradise look, where it's like it can make the CPU, graphics cards, do back-flips and, ' push ' it . . <3 <3 Thanks . .

Describe how your proposal will work, with code, pseudo-code, mock-ups, and/or diagrams

Well, a look, that makes you feel, Godot can pull some weight, really do, bad - ass stuff or, so :O . . there's a line, where it starts looking commercial, it's not about that, yuck . . . but, having a more hard-core look, would make you feel, if you wanted to make a cool AA, or AAA title, that the engine wouldn't crash or, ' fall ' apart <3 . . Thanks . .

If this enhancement will not be used often, can it be worked around with a few lines of script?

Not sure, I constantly feel I'm not using the right engine, I made sort of more complex 3D stuff, for a Tomb Raider game, PS2-PS3 quality, and it's like the engine is telling me, ' I can't do that ', it's made for simpler, less ' awesome ' stuff :O . .

Like, I'm making AA - AAA games, and while the engine prob. can do that, I'm sort of always thinking, this engine will crash, it can't do AAA, or even decent AA, look at the icons, it's for making phone games or, tablet games :( :( . .

Is there a reason why this should be core and not an add-on in the asset library?

Not sure, I'd like a hard-core, competent, nerd-paradise, amazing code, wonderful 3-d look, where editor tells me, ' we can handle this, add more code, stuff <3 ' . . Thanks . . . .

Add: Like Blender or, a bit more, something nice, something ' robust ' <3

[jasperbrooks79]

Like, here's a famous video, of some-one adding Quixel assets, to Godot . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHd_-mtJpu4

Looking, at the interface one almost thinks, engine will have a ' seizure ', if one tries that . . may-be it could be inspired by Blender, or similar . . without looking ' commercial ', just cool, amazing . . . Thx . . <3 . .

Any-way, right now feels like engine, would choke on AAA games or, even slightly over AA - level . . :OO I don't like that feeling, at all . . So, what is the answer, that still retains the classic look, maybe a Godot Hard-core theme, for adults :OO . . . . a new theme ?? <3

Just so, you feel, Godot can do some hard-core stuff if, you need it, may-be inspired by Blender, a better reflection, of what you ' get ', since looking at video above, Godot can do ' more ', than kid's stuff <3 but, how . . <3

Just so it looks, it also supports AA - AAA <3 or, more . . . Thanks . . :OO . .

I just constantly fear, it will crash, if I try to do remotely advanced stuff or, code <3 <3 . . . . not a ' commercial ' look, which is foul, just a more ' hard - core ' look, like it can handle ' tough ' jobs, or so . . . <3 . .

LMMS has it, also . . but, I don't want a 'commercial' look, it's about avoiding that, while making it cool, feel ' pro ' software, tool . . . <3 :OO . . . . so, you never worry it will crash or, 'make corrupt' code, worse . . if you push it, a bit, or so . . . <3

'This thing rocks, so bad - ass ' :OO <3 . . more mature, ' competent ', strong . . So, you don't get ' crash ' or, ' bug ' stress, trying to, use it <3 Thx . . . . it's about, feeling comfortable, or so . . . <3 . . .

almost, geek heaven, endless code, a ' bigger ' feeling of being able, to ' work ' the GPU, RAM <3 just, awe-some, sublime . . . :OO <3 . . . . Thx . . . ' Paradise ', for coders, devs and, geeks, nerds <3 . . Thx . . .

So, one almost had a feeling, engine could ' carry ' the world, in code, graphics, or 'style' . . . <3

Some-thing, more mature, like Blender, bit more <3 <3 . . . .

I think, Cakewalk, formerly a ' paid ' software, now it's 100 % free, except you need an e-mail log-in, has a nice look, some-thing between that and, Blender, perhaps . . .

At least for me, it'd make me feel more comfortable using the engine, more ' relaxed ', it won't crash or, so . . of course, it'd have to be done in a custom way, so it's done ' Godot ' way <3 . . .

ADD: Just, so it feels like a ' work ' station, for ' bigger ' games or, content . . like, it will ' support ' and, carry bigger stuff, also . . Thanks . . . <3 . .

Here's another program, that feels a good blend between features and, ' look ', mypaint, an open source paint program . . . .

Normally run it, in 4K, has a nice look, of ' competence ' and, ' working ' place, 'area' . . :O :O . . .

Krita, even Autodesk Sketchbook, or more <3

Guess is, when it's done, and we could still have classic theme, or editor look, you'll not look back, feels ' pro ' yet, ' nice ', clean . .

If, done well . . . <3 <3 Thx . . .

You could even make it so, one could download the ' theme ', new look . . so one saves space, as a .pak, with all icons in . . but, many other open source or, free programs have a ' nicer ' interface, I think Godot could learn from that, make it a ' work ' station, experience, or so <3 . . and, it 'might' make more people consider the engine, for small or, even 'medium' studios <3 . .

Or, you could save the current look, in a .pak, so people can download it, as they please, from the official web-site, or as a plug-in, or so . . :OO . . <3 . . . also, then you wouldn't have to ' sell ' the engine, work so hard, to make more people use it, it'd do it, itself, while being clean, ' crisp ' and, darling <3 or, so . . Thx . . . Instant hit, super - clean and, competent, ' work ' - area, no bull - shit, ' effects ' . . . <3 . . .

ADD: Last, it'd mean the engine would be more ' desirable ' for use in universities, for scientific visualization, bec. it looks like it, can ' handle ' it, as well . . Only, keep the original theme, and consider adding a button, in ' Themes ', where you can ' quick - download ' different themes, etc . . That way, it wouldn't add ' size ', to the engine or, as plug - ins <3 imo, it's time Godot had a ' grown ' up look, since it also has PBR stuff, 3-d, so on . . :OO might look, nice, 'simple', even cool, 'respectable' . . <3 <3 . . .

seems to be standard, in most open source programs, soft-ware . . . <3 could have, both, or so . . <3

' Rock - solid ' and, impressive, nice . . :OO . . . . <3

May be, a bad example, 'Rogue engine', also open source, has a ' pro ' look, with-out it becoming greedy, ' bloated ' . . .

Just a, big QoL, Quality of life improvement, for game - devs looking to take it to the ' next ' level, not sure . . . <3 . .

People, would take the engine more ' seriously ', consider it for bigger, more ' demanding ' projects, if it looked ' more ' like Blender, even cakewalk, mypaint <3 more people would consider it, I assume the power is there, not sure <3 Thanks . . . .

[YuriSizov]

The feeling of professionalism is a matter of personal taste. Godot has pretty inoffensive UI that is fitting for many occasions, IMO. Be that as it may, this proposal is too vague and too wishful. I also feel like you've proposed several things that directly relate to it in the past.

So please stick to more concrete ideas about what you propose to change, don't make issues about making Godot more X in general.

[KoBeWi]

btw there are already plans to improve the editor look, see godotengine/godot#45607

[jasperbrooks79]

I read the proposal, yes please <3

gonna give it a bunch of thumbs-up, that's all . . :OO <3