- Date: June 1, 2017
- Next meeting: June 22, 2017
- GitHub Issue: TSC#277
- Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-2V2dZKQzw-2Nyzef4y-vjzdkvPYKYjOgKONdsaNHCw
- Previous Minutes Google Doc:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-2V2dZKQzw-2Nyzef4y-vjzdkvPYKYjOgKONdsaNHCw/edit
- Bryan Hughes @nebrius (TSC)
- James M Snell @jasnell (TSC)
- Mikeal Rogers @mikeal (observer/Node.js Foundation)
- Rod Vagg @rvagg (TSC)
- Michael Dawson @mhdawson (TSC)
- Jenn Turner @renrutnnej (observer)
- Tracy Hinds @hackygolucky (observer/Node.js Foundation)
- Myles Borins @MylesBorins (observer/TSC nominee)
Extracted from tsc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.
- Bring string_decoder into the foundation #272
- Request to move moderation responsibilities to CommComm #270
- Request: Additional 2017 Travel Fund Allocation #250
- Copyright Date #195
- Clarify which people should be org owners #125
- Regular roll-up reporting for active working groups #109
- Michael proposed we switch to hangouts so that we can have live broadcasts/recording.
- Myles to investigate meet as something which would possibly even be better
- For now we.ll switch over to hangouts for the next meeting until Myles reports.
Bring string_decoder into the foundation #272
- There are no objections from the CTC. Added comment to TSC issue [#260}(nodejs#260) to say will Be considered to be approved unless there are objections by Monday June 5.
Request to move moderation responsibilities to CommComm#270
- Brian, was to support the potential re-org of the TSC
- James, there is an alternate PR for joint responsibility of moderation TSC and community committee
- Myles, one thing that has worked well is the moderation repo. Transparency/openness is very important. Need to make sure we Don.t lose parts that are working well.
- Brian, do need to formalize escalation process.
- Rod, earlier discussions in comcom was to help set process/not own This is about moving responsibility.
- Brian yes.
- Rod, the people who get to make the decisions on the group should Be made by the group. So in this case, potential issue because The comcom team does not come out of the technical team. Really only concerned with github and technical team as opposed to other Channels.
- Myles, initial discussion was that it would be up to each of the teams/repos to accept moderation guidelines.
- Mikeal, moderation cannot really be delegated as it must be done by the group but the issue may be the escalation policy.
- James, ideally the moderation policy would be consistent across The repos. That.s why suggested to have joint ownership and Escalation would be to both TSC and ComCom.
- Brian, a lot of merits to making it joint.
- Brian, specifically what the proposal would entail if it was to Move to comcom, docs would move to comcom repo, tweaks to TSC and Comcom charter.
- Mikeal, key thing is really where the escalation goes and currently that is only to TSC even though some of the repos are now Under comcom.
- Brian, TSC has been slow to do the moderation work,people in comcom may be more active in doing work.
- Mikeal, we already have people that moderate across the repos. De-escalation is the largest part of the work.
- James, proposal he put on table, moderators are from the collaborators from the project.
- Rodd, key thing is that doers have the influence over the things that impact them.
- Mikeal, 2 different things in the proposal to restructure TSC, representation and admin/groups.
- Myles, one of the issues was community internally and externally. New role of the TSC, place for WGs to come together to share info and hold other groups accountable for their actions.
- Rod, How to make it more digestable
- Mikeal, there are several issues and hard to discuss one at a time
- Rod, can we open up to a larger group for discussion.
- James, became complicated due to a larger number of comments from a smallish number of people.
- Myles, suggested a google doc versus a PR as living doc, that
anybody can modify and actions can be assigned. - Mikeal, thread about representative structure.
- Myles, believe most people are ok, but smaller group don.t like core having less say. 2nd point pushback from WGs that it would Generate more work/admin. Myles believes this is a way to bring more people in to contribute to decisions.
- and more discussion.
- open a new thread about how to move forward without getting into low level details. Not tied to any proposal. Refining goals and current problems.
- Tracy, suggest it might be good to find way to get neutral third party as moderator.
Request: Additional 2017 Travel Fund Allocation #250
No objections so James to move forward.
We agreed to roll over the issues to the next meeting as we ran out of time.
None, since we were not streaming.
Node.js Foundation calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=kap.co_i17i575te0aes6kaanfjr2e4hs%40group.calendar.google.com
Next meeting: 2017-06-15 2000 UTC (Thursday 1pm US Pacific).