diff --git a/doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-20.md b/doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-20.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000000000..02f16ae2ac24ca --- /dev/null +++ b/doc/ctc-meetings/2016-07-20.md @@ -0,0 +1,202 @@ +# Node Foundation CTC Meeting 2016-07-20 + +## Links + +* **Audio Recording**: TBP +* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7809 +* **Minutes Google Doc**: +* _Previous Minutes Google Doc: _ + +## Present + +* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer) +* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC) +* Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC) +* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC) +* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC) +* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC) +* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft) +* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC) +* Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC) +* Brian White @mscdex (CTC) +* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC) +* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC) +* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC) +* Seth Thompson @s3ththompson (observer/Google) +* Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC) +* Steven R Loomis @srl295 (observer/IBM/ICU) +* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer) +* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC) +* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC) + + +## Standup + +* Anna Henningsen @addaleax (observer) + * Issues & PRs + * looking into porting JS-based realpath to C +* Ben Noordhuis @bnoordhuis (CTC) + * The usual (PR review and comment) + * Updating code base to do less manual memory management. PR coming soon. +* Сковорода Никита Андреевич @ChALkeR (CTC) + * Some initial work on docs linting. + * Some comments on issues and PRs. +* Colin Ihrig @cjihrig (CTC) + * Reviewed issues and PRs + * Opened PRs +* Evan Lucas @evanlucas (CTC) + * working on v6.3.1 release + * working on repl bugfix +* Jeremiah Senkpiel @Fishrock123 (CTC) + * Did some timers review for https://github.com/nodejs/node/commit/5aac4c42da104c30d8f701f1042d61c2f06b7e6c + * Clearing out some other old stuff I’ve assigned myself to +* Josh Gavant @joshgav (observer/Microsoft) + * Internal Microsoft work. +* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (CTC) + * Misc issues with PPC machines, added new PPC + machines from newer openstack + * Working with Ian/Sampson on ABI stable abi, status + update at API WG meeting + * Working with Richard/Howard on post-mortem activities, + post-mortem WG meeting this week. + * Misc reviews/lands + * Reading/keeping up/commenting on issues + * Getting ready for Node Summit talk. +* Julien Gilli @misterdjules (CTC) + * Looking forward to getting more involved again + * Investigating timers bug. Looking for someone to mentor on it + * Reviewing and commenting on pull requests +* Brian White @mscdex (CTC) + * Diving deep into reworking API docs + * Reviewing PRs, commenting on issues +* Ali Ijaz Sheikh @ofrobots (CTC) + * shepherding some V8 backports, v8_inspector license issue and roll +* Alexis Campailla @orangemocha (CTC) + * Nothing to report. +* Rod Vagg @rvagg (CTC) + * Usual administrative stuff, some build maintenance +* Seth Thompson @s3ththompson (observer/Google) + * Setting priorities for the next quarter. + * Team is continuing work on v8_inspector. + * Migrating v8_inspector into V8 itself. +* Shigeki Ohtsu @shigeki (CTC) + * Nothing special. Working internal jobs. +* Steven R Loomis @srl295 (observer/IBM/ICU) + * Nodesummit prep… +* Myles Borins @TheAlphaNerd (observer) + * v4.5.0-rc.2 released + * Email sent to npm team +* Trevor Norris @trevnorris (CTC) + * realpath fix +* Rich Trott @Trott (CTC) + * CTC governance doc updates + * onboarded @andrasq, will set up something with @princejwesley next, open to other nominations for after that + * eliminating more flaky tests (IT NEVER ENDS!!!!11!!!) + + +## Agenda + +Extracted from **ctc-agenda** labelled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. + +### nodejs/node + +* [meta] realpath issues in v6 [#7726](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7726) +* v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688) +* http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102) + +### nodejs/node-eps + +* proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28) + +## Previous Meeting + +* build: drop support for VS 2013 in v7 [#7484](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7484) + +* Node 6 fs.realpath behavior changes [#7175](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7175) + +* http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102) + +* v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688) + +* proposal: WHATWG URL standard implementation [#28](https://github.com/nodejs/node-eps/pull/28) + +## Minutes + +### [meta] realpath issues in v6 [#7726](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/7726) + +@rvagg: some discussion of reversion to v5 behavior, i.e. JS implementation rather than libuv implementation. + +@trevnorris: looks like everybody’s leaning towards a full revert (or at least a partial revert). I don’t like this plan but will go along. + +@addaleax: Unfortunate to have to do full revert for *nix systems. But having alternate impl for Windows increases maintenance costs. + +As part of the new implementation, the `cache` parameter was removed from the method. It was created to improve perf for the JS impl but is considered less necessary since the native impl performs better anyway. + +Should we reinstate the `cache` parameter as part of the revert? Would this be a semver-major again? Does caching in the JS impl provide a significant perf benefit? + +@addaleax: Benchmarking fs perf will show how much benefit the caching capability in libuv provides. + +@mhdawson: we run two benchmarks nightly: one with caching and one without. + +@orangemocha: It seems okay to have two impl’s, one for Windows and one for *nix, increased maintenance surface isn’t a concern, libuv manages libuv impl. + +@rvagg: As we move v6 to LTS it would be best to have a known-good implementation. So would prefer a full revert, then fix libuv impl independently, then re-integrate. + +@thealphanerd: Could we provide both interfaces? Revert the primary one to original behavior and add a second one with libuv behavior? + +@rvagg: Still doesn’t address breaking change in Windows. + +@fishrock123: also in favor of reverting. This has been going on for a long time, best to revert and then fix. + +@orangemocha: should not compromise correctness for performance. + +@trevnorris: caching could be separated from fs API. For example, it could be part of `module` module. + +@rvagg: This is why I’m in favor of a full reversion. These other discussions may continue for a month and we need to correct problem now. + +@thealphanerd: do we have a list of the original bugs the libuv patch addressed? + +@saghul has a list. + +@rvagg: back to github for now. + +**Next steps**: continue discussion in GH. + +### v4.5.0 proposal [#7688](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7688) + +@thealphanerd is raising visibility for tests and feedback. + +@misterdjules may have some testers. + +### http: don't inherit from Object.prototype [#6102](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/6102) + +@rvagg: Need choices to vote on. + +@ofrobots: Wants to explore more options including `map` so wait for vote. If the goal is to go to a map why don’t we do that now? + +@Fishrock123: Because community has taken dependencies on it being an object. + +@ofrobots: headers end up with “megamorphic IC’s” so wants to research further. + +@Fishrock123: We are fixing this because header names like `__proto__` conflict with default object properties. + +We should really just make an API for headers. + +@rvagg: We’ll come back to this next week. Prepare wording for vote if ready. + +**Next steps**: List available options and conduct vote next week. + + +## Q/A on public fora + +None. + +## Upcoming Meetings + +* CTC: 2016-07-27 +* TSC: 2016-07-28 +* Build: 2016-08-07 +* LTS: 2016-07-25 +* Diagnostics: 2016-08-03 +* Post-Mortem: August +* API: August