HID not loading unless freshly paired in gui

[eklynx]

I have a device that is a BLE Gamepad that i'm trying to use on a RaspberryPI 5 running bookworm. When i pair through the gui, it loads the HID device just fine, but if i either reboot the machine, or instead try pairing through bluetoothctl, it doesn't load the HID device, even though it says it's connected just fine. Does anyone have any ideas on where i can look? How does the device load differently when paired through the gui?

Other points of note:

• udevadm monitor shows 2 entries when it doesn't work, 14 entries when it does. The first two entries of the happy path are identical to the failure case except for expected sequence and time values.
• debug level udev logs show similar to udevadm monitor; The happy path has all the entries of the failure and just has more after. No extra errors or branching behavior from what i can tell.

Thanks in advance!