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Support Xcode 12 before new APIs fully supported #9066

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t9mike opened this issue Jul 13, 2020 · 4 comments
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Support Xcode 12 before new APIs fully supported #9066

t9mike opened this issue Jul 13, 2020 · 4 comments

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@t9mike
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t9mike commented Jul 13, 2020

My Apple Watch app crashes on watchOS 7 Beta. All I want to do is figure out why it is crashing, not support new APIs, etc. I want to run my app in Xcode 12 debugger against watchOS 7 simulator.

Please for new major Xcode releases, support the new Xcode toolchain only ASAP. APIs can come later.

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chamons commented Jul 13, 2020

Until Apple releases a final GM of a major Xcode release, it is premature for us to declare any build as containing tooling support. Historically Apple has added breaking changes all the way up to their final, though the first few betas are always the roughest.

Apple did make one launcher break in this first Xcode which we cherry picked to the current Beta in an attempt to reduce everyone's pain this fall when Xcode auto-updates before the Xamarin update goes live on stable.

If you are interested in testing out Xcode 12, I'd suggest on a mac:

Testing during Xcode season is always appreciated, just expect some rough edges (both Apple's and ours) along the way.

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t9mike commented Jul 13, 2020

While I appreciate being pointed to the latest build, the issue I have is there is never any advertised way to get these early releases. Yes I know things change. And you keep up with them. But before you do your preview release that is much more complete, you need to have a place developers can go to and fetch this preliminary work (and not stumble on it in a ticket like this).

That should be either:

  • New preview channel (Xcode 12 Alpha) in Visual Studio
  • A standard location on Website that can be found every release cycle, pointed to by blog post, etc.

Because if I search for xamarin.ios xcode 12 I find little.

I started building from source last night. I would rather avoid this and will try the download.

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t9mike commented Jul 13, 2020

What I am trying to say is you desperately need a place where, every year, folks who need new Xcode ASAP for whatever reason -- mine #1 is just being able to debug against new OS simulators -- can go to. Nightly builds may not always be the best. This can have latest known issues, best latest nightly build to use, log of major fixes/updates, etc.

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chamons commented Jul 13, 2020

We are trying to better document what people should expect during the summer. See: https://github.com/xamarin/xamarin-macios/wiki/Xcode-Summer-Expectations

We plan on having a public preview channel in VSfM in the coming weeks, we just haven't dug out enough from Beta 1 & 2 to have something useful for most people right now (this is the case every year at this point).

Until we get that public preview out, if you want to try things early then https://github.com/xamarin/xamarin-macios/wiki#downloading-a-build has instructions and you can grab packages off our branch.

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