Major slowdown on Linux due to Gtk.jl + @threads for

[timholy]

xref JuliaGraphics/Gtk.jl#503, which seems likely to be a Julia issue. Note that I observe it on both Julia 1.4 and 1.2, but Julia 1.0.5 does not share this problem.

[JeffBezanson]

Could you grab a profile?
Some of the new threading and task code was added in 1.2, so that makes sense.

[timholy]

Bizarrely, on a relatively recent master (8d8f46d) it's always fast if I use @profile:

julia> @profile test_imfilter(opt=2)
julia_num_threads=4
1 imfilter 0.019901 sec
2 imfilter 0.029619 sec
3 imfilter 0.021065 sec
4 imfilter 0.01536 sec
5 imfilter 0.013495 sec
6 imfilter 0.009861 sec
7 imfilter 0.010458 sec
8 imfilter 0.009338 sec
9 imfilter 0.020186 sec

julia> test_imfilter(opt=2)
julia_num_threads=4
1 imfilter 5.022134 sec
2 imfilter 0.034472 sec
3 imfilter 5.020989 sec
4 imfilter 5.032051 sec
5 imfilter 0.036996 sec
6 imfilter 0.017211 sec
7 imfilter 0.018399 sec
8 imfilter 0.01314 sec
9 imfilter 0.013678 sec

julia> @profile test_imfilter(opt=2)
julia_num_threads=4
1 imfilter 0.029225 sec
2 imfilter 0.010284 sec
3 imfilter 0.008963 sec
4 imfilter 0.009983 sec
5 imfilter 0.007118 sec
6 imfilter 0.012708 sec
7 imfilter 0.009843 sec
8 imfilter 0.009938 sec
9 imfilter 0.010068 sec

julia> test_imfilter(opt=2)
julia_num_threads=4
1 imfilter 0.027196 sec
2 imfilter 5.015825 sec
3 imfilter 0.032341 sec
4 imfilter 5.017424 sec
5 imfilter 0.02489 sec
6 imfilter 5.017529 sec
7 imfilter 5.018003 sec
8 imfilter 0.019033 sec
9 imfilter 5.024461 sec

If I use a low-tech sampling profiler (hit Ctrl-C and see where the break occurs), it always seems to be here:

ERROR: InterruptException:
Stacktrace:
 [1] try_yieldto(::typeof(Base.ensure_rescheduled), ::Base.RefValue{Task}) at ./task.jl:645
 [2] wait at ./task.jl:710 [inlined]
 [3] wait(::Base.GenericCondition{Base.Threads.SpinLock}) at ./condition.jl:106
 [4] _wait(::Task) at ./task.jl:238
 [5] wait(::Task) at ./task.jl:265
 [6] macro expansion at ./threadingconstructs.jl:69 [inlined]
 [7] _imfilter_tiled_threads!(::CPU1{ImageFiltering.Algorithm.FIRTiled{2}}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}, ::OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}, ::OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}, ::NoPad{Pad{2}}, ::Array{Tuple{UnitRange{Int64},UnitRange{Int64}},1}, ::Array{Array{Float32,2},1}) at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:858
 [8] _imfilter_tiled!(::CPUThreads{ImageFiltering.Algorithm.FIRTiled{2}}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}, ::Tuple{OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}},OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}}, ::NoPad{Pad{2}}, ::Array{Array{Float32,2},1}, ::Tuple{Base.OneTo{Int64},Base.OneTo{Int64}}) at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:854
 [9] imfilter!(::CPUThreads{ImageFiltering.Algorithm.FIRTiled{2}}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}, ::Tuple{OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}},OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}}, ::NoPad{Pad{2}}, ::Tuple{Base.OneTo{Int64},Base.OneTo{Int64}}) at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:773
 [10] imfilter! at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:770 [inlined]
 [11] imfilter! at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:715 [inlined]
 [12] imfilter!(::CPUThreads{ImageFiltering.Algorithm.FIRTiled{2}}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::Tuple{OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}},OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}}, ::Pad{0}) at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:702
 [13] imfilter!(::Array{Float32,2}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::Tuple{OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}},OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}}, ::Pad{0}, ::ImageFiltering.Algorithm.FIRTiled{2}) at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:612
 [14] imfilter!(::Array{Float32,2}, ::Array{Float32,2}, ::Tuple{OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}},OffsetArrays.OffsetArray{Float32,2,Array{Float32,2}}}, ::Pad{0}) at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:606
 [15] imfilter at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:27 [inlined]
 [16] imfilter at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:22 [inlined]
 [17] imfilter at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:18 [inlined]
 [18] imfilter at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:10 [inlined]
 [19] imfilter at /home/tim/.julia/packages/ImageFiltering/jhBno/src/imfilter.jl:5 [inlined]
 [20] test_imfilter(; opt::Int64) at ./REPL[4]:11
 [21] top-level scope at REPL[23]:1

The threading is just old-school @threads, see here.

[JeffBezanson]

If I use a low-tech sampling profiler (hit Ctrl-C and see where the break occurs),

One of my favorites! 😄

[JeffBezanson]

The key difference in v1.2 must be that @threads loops join at the end by calling the normal wait on tasks, which allows other scheduled tasks to run as well. Does GTK have a task scheduled that might block for 5 seconds?

[lobingera]

What do you mean?

a) Is it possible that GTK spends 5s on internal processing i.e. redrawing something?
b) Is is possible the GTK calls something that takes 5s?

I mentioned this JuliaGraphics/Gtk.jl#325 (comment) , just putting the gtk main loop into a Task might not be enough. There seems to be a reason for this page https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/gtk3-General.html

[timholy]

I am no Gtk expert, but I don't think there's anything in Gtk that should take that long. Assuming that times are being measured in milliseconds, there is something which appears to be a 5s timeout. See also here. I confess that I have not dug into libuv or Julia's scheduling enough to make much sense of what's going on there.

[roflmaostc]

Hey,

I was wondering whether there are some efforts being done to fix this?
I encountered (probably?) the same issue in mcabbott/Tullio.jl#45 and Julia 1.5.2.
But for me that 5s don't appear. It's just a slowdown.

Thanks,

Felix

[rafaqz]

I just got bitten by this as well. It's always roughly a 5 second timeout in @threads after using Gtk.

It seems like it's literally a timeout - there is nothing significant happening on any CPUs for the duration, and the timing seems too similar across multiple machines to be an actual task.

[wavecast]

Just confirming what @timholy mentioned above. I tried changing 5000 to 1 in this line of Gtk.jl/src/GLib/signals.jl:

tmout_min::Cint = (uv_pollfd::_GPollFD).fd == -1 ? 10 : 5000

After doing that a multithreaded test program (just JuliaImages/ImageView.jl#243 with 'using ImageView' changed to 'using Gtk') runs much faster. Changing 5000 to 0 makes it even faster but CPU goes to 100%.

[IanButterworth]

This gets in the way of the new Profiling thread support given ProfileView uses Gtk.

So if a user does

julia> using ProfileView

julia> @profview multithreaded_foo()

they're going to have a bad time.

It can be worked around once, by doing

julia> using Profile

julia> @profile multithreaded_foo()

julia> using ProfileView

julia> ProfileView.view()

but that's awkward and only works once per session.

Therefore as a suggestion I'm putting it on the 1.8 milestone

[IanButterworth]

JuliaGraphics/Gtk.jl#607 is merged and released, which makes this a bit more manageable by stopping the eventloop when no Gtk windows are shown

[tkf]

I tried to refine the issue title as it looks like this is specific to @threads for and has nothing/little to do with our multi-threaded runtime itself, IIUC. But please feel free to roll it back if that's inaccurate.

[roflmaostc]

Hm.

I have kind of bad news.
In my case I observe the major slowdown again.

I don't have a MWE yet, but after using ImagView and imshow(x) I observe significant performance drop in my iterative FFT algorithm. CPU usage drops from 4 full used threads to 50% on one core.

[roflmaostc]

Ok, found one, the difference is roughly a factor of 30:

julia> using FFTW

julia> FFTW.set_num_threads(4)

julia> x = rand(300, 300);

julia> using BenchmarkTools

julia> @btime fft($x);
  349.117 μs (111 allocations: 2.75 MiB)

julia> using ImageView

julia> @btime fft($x);
  361.026 μs (111 allocations: 2.75 MiB)

julia> imshow(x)
Dict{String, Any} with 4 entries:
  "gui"         => Dict{String, Any}("window"=>GtkWindowLeaf(name="", parent, width-request=-1, height-request=-1, visible=TRUE, sensitive=TRUE, app-paintable=FALSE, can-focus=FALS…
  "roi"         => Dict{String, Any}("redraw"=>Observables.ObserverFunction[ObserverFunction defined at /home/fxw/.julia/packages/Observables/PHGQ8/src/Observables.jl:414 operating…
  "annotations" => Observable(Dict{UInt64, Any}())
  "clim"        => Observable(CLim{Float64}(7.34195e-6, 0.999971))

julia> @btime fft($x);
  10.860 ms (112 allocations: 2.75 MiB)

julia> versioninfo()
Julia Version 1.8.3
Commit 0434deb161e (2022-11-14 20:14 UTC)
Platform Info:
  OS: Linux (x86_64-linux-gnu)
  CPU: 12 × AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor
  WORD_SIZE: 64
  LIBM: libopenlibm
  LLVM: libLLVM-13.0.1 (ORCJIT, znver3)
  Threads: 12 on 12 virtual cores
Environment:
  JULIA_NUM_THREADS = 12

(jl_Qyr6ui) pkg> st
Status `/tmp/jl_Qyr6ui/Project.toml`
  [6e4b80f9] BenchmarkTools v1.3.2
  [7a1cc6ca] FFTW v1.5.0
  [86fae568] ImageView v0.11.1

For larger array, the difference seems to be smaller.

julia> using BenchmarkTools, FFTW

julia> x = rand(512, 512, 128);

julia> @btime fft($x);
  1.152 s (31 allocations: 1.00 GiB)

julia> FFTW.set_num_threads(4)

julia> @btime fft($x);
  408.174 ms (113 allocations: 1.00 GiB)

julia> using ImageView

julia> @btime fft($x);
  408.752 ms (112 allocations: 1.00 GiB)

julia> imshow(x)
Dict{String, Any} with 4 entries:
  "gui"         => Dict{String, Any}("window"=>GtkWindowLeaf(name="", parent, width-reque…
  "roi"         => Dict{String, Any}("redraw"=>Observables.ObserverFunction[ObserverFunct…
  "annotations" => Observable(Dict{UInt64, Any}())
  "clim"        => Observable(CLim{Float64}(6.91704e-6, 0.999992))

julia> @btime fft($x);
  422.323 ms (116 allocations: 1.00 GiB)

[oscardssmith]

what closed this?