Simplify Linux installation to copy-paste #928

ChrisRackauckas · 2020-07-28T12:30:22Z

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barche · 2020-07-28T12:48:41Z

The downside is that this will have to be updated every time the Julia recommended version changes.

downloads/platform.md

Co-authored-by: Rafael Fourquet <fourquet.rafael@gmail.com>

maxmouchet · 2020-07-28T13:12:26Z

$PWD should be quoted, otherwise this will fail if there is a space in the path:

"$PWD"/julia-1.4.2/bin/julia

KristofferC · 2020-07-28T14:24:54Z

downloads/platform.md

+```
+wget https://julialang-s3.julialang.org/bin/linux/x64/1.4/julia-1.4.2-linux-x86_64.tar.gz
+tar -xvzf julia-1.4.2-linux-x86\_64.tar.gz
+ln -s "$PWD"/julia-1.4.2/bin/julia ~/.local/bin/


Is this in PATH by default?

It's kind of weird that these instructions are just run in some unspecified directory. Presumably the user's home directory? Maybe a little info about where to run this?

is there a place we should download it to?

Not really, but maybe a word about "pick a place where you want the Julia directory to live—this can be your home directory or maybe a ~/dev directory if you prefer that."

When you apt-get or install a Windows binary, it just goes somewhere and that's where it is. What's a good default for us to do here? Anyone who cares where it goes will know what to do: the instructions are for the other audience.

Why not say that run the command from the directory you want it in?

ViralBShah · 2020-07-28T17:11:04Z

@tlienart We have a way to make this generic, IIRC. So that it doesn't need changing with every release.

downloads/platform.md

tlienart · 2020-07-28T19:48:21Z

@ViralBShah im lacking context here but if you open an issue explaining what needs to be done & assign it to me I'll get it done asap

ViralBShah · 2020-07-28T22:10:21Z

Sorry - if you look at the PR, it has hard-coded Julia versions, which will have to be changed every time there's a new release. I thought onthe downloads page we have variables that we can use to refer to the latest stable release.

logankilpatrick · 2020-07-28T22:18:54Z

Yes we do, though not sure if they will work in this context.

tlienart · 2020-07-29T04:40:59Z

Ah right in the code you mean? Yes yes that can be done; ok I'll try that today

johnnychen94 · 2020-07-29T08:51:22Z

Except for the python dependency, I still believe #926

jill install [VERSION] [--install_dir INSTALL_DIR] [--symlink_dir SYMLINK_DIR] [--upstream UPSTREAM] [--confirm]

provides better and generic instruction to this. And jill works for macOS and Windows, too. Why should we limit ourselves to Linux and FreeBSD when there's already a cross-platform solution for terminal users?

If a shell script oneliner for Linux/macOS is wanted, we could save us some efforts and borrow jill.sh (cc: @abelsiqueira)

This corresponds to the request in #928 to have instructions that can depend on the `stable_version` variable. #928 could be eventually adapted to use the same ideas

downloads/platform.md

zlatanvasovic · 2020-07-29T15:29:05Z

@ViralBShah stable_release is defined in config.md. I suggested the appropriate changes to use that.

Edit: I just noticed #932 by @tlienart.

tlienart · 2020-07-31T09:04:35Z

In light of #928 (comment) should we close this PR and open another one with the one-liner from jill?

PS: this is maybe an unrelated concern but would it be a security concern that the "blessed" download way would be dependent upon an external repo not part of the JuliaLang org?

fredrikekre · 2020-07-31T11:42:01Z

PS: this is maybe an unrelated concern but would it be a security concern that the "blessed" download way would be dependent upon an external repo not part of the JuliaLang org?

Yes, I don't think we should list that in such a prominent place. In particular it doesn't look good that you first have to install python and then a python package to finally install Julia.

Maybe we could instead support and maintain something like Rust's rustup.sh.

abelsiqueira · 2020-07-31T11:47:26Z

Yes, I don't think we should list that in such a prominent place. In particular it doesn't look good that you first have to install python and then a python package to finally install Julia.

Maybe we could instead support and maintain something like Rust's rustup.sh.

Just pointing out that Jill is a bash script, so there is no need to install python before: https://github.com/abelsiqueira/jill (maybe I should officially name it Jill.sh?)

If you prefer I can transfer ownership to JuliaLang.

johnnychen94 · 2020-07-31T12:54:10Z

#926 (comment)
I could move this project to JuliaLang and make modifications if it is desired.

Install Julia is super easy. jill.* doesn't need to be the first choices for people to install Julia, they're just so handy when terminal users want a simple and reliable copy&paste solution. jill.* are made for these users.

For jill.py, there’s a very good chance Python is already installed for terminal users. How could pip install jill be problematic while curl <args> <rustup-url> | bash isn't? Perhaps I just need to rename it as juliaup?

Maybe we could instead support and maintain something like Rust's rustup.sh.

Maybe, if there's someone in Julialang willing to and he happens to have some time.

* Make instructions use the current stable version This corresponds to the request in #928 to have instructions that can depend on the `stable_version` variable. #928 could be eventually adapted to use the same ideas * Update platform.md * simplifying a bit * small fixes Co-authored-by: Viral B. Shah <ViralBShah@users.noreply.github.com>

ViralBShah · 2020-08-13T20:56:59Z

I would be happy to move jill to JuliaLang. If we are to include it here though, it will need to be attended to, which shouldn't be too difficult. Good to know what @StefanKarpinski @staticfloat @fredrikekre @KristofferC think.

ViralBShah · 2020-08-13T20:57:29Z

Not sure what to do here.

StefanKarpinski · 2020-08-14T03:23:48Z

I'd be happy to look at jill and decide if we should include it in a more official capacity, but blocking better Linux install instructions on that seems kind of unnecessary. How about we improve the Linux install instructions and then separately consider something like that?

Co-authored-by: Zlatan Vasović <zlatanvasovic@gmail.com>

ViralBShah · 2020-08-14T12:12:10Z

I think the easiest way to get this merged is to ask people to download and untar in their home directory and then run with ./julia-<release>/julia. This is literally how I run it on every single machine. Later, jill can be used to put all the versions in a single directory and make it easy to pick one and so on.

abelsiqueira · 2020-08-14T13:15:01Z

I agree with @StefanKarpinski. I started a discussion on abelsiqueira/jill#33.

ViralBShah · 2020-08-14T16:18:40Z

I am merging it right now as it is a significant improvement. Can always make it better.

johnnychen94 · 2020-08-16T14:49:33Z

downloads/platform.md


+```
+wget https://julialang-s3.julialang.org/bin/linux/x64/1.4/julia-{{ stable_release }}-linux-x86_64.tar.gz


1.4 here should be replaced with some placeholder

{{ stable_release_short }}

KristofferC · 2020-08-16T20:27:32Z

It seems strange to merge a "copy paste" solution that doesn't work and has open unaddressed review comments.

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Make setup instructions use the current stable version #932

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Should JuliaLang officially support Jill? abelsiqueira/jill#33

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advertise jill.py in Downloads as a command-line installation tool #926

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		```
		wget https://julialang-s3.julialang.org/bin/linux/x64/1.4/julia-{{ stable_release }}-linux-x86_64.tar.gz

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