log all ifd

[cleverca22]

No description provided.

[grahamc]

maybe something a bit more explicit, mentioning "importing from derivation"?

[bjornfor]

Also in the help text please.

[grahamc]

One last nit, and looks great to me

[edolstra]

What's the use case for this? Why does it need a separate option rather than a debug(...) message?

[grahamc]

debug sounds like a fine option, the main thing is being able to easily see the origin of the IFD

[cleverca22]

if it was done via debug(...) then you would need enough -vvvv (which can harm performance?) and know the magic string to grep for, and grep on stderr is more complex

having a dedicated option eliminates the need to know the magic string to search for

i can also see value in just turning this option on globally, so you have more feedback about why something just started a build when it was doing an eval

[Ericson2314]

What's the use case for this?

I just discovered this. this would be very useful to us making sure we have all build-time and eval-time deps, when trying to export caches for clients. Definitely do want!

[matthewbauer]

Debugging this stuff seems useful, but I wonder if we could have a flag that gives a machine readable output? A common reason to want to know about all of these .drv files is so that you can keep a cache, not just of the dependencies of your final drv, but also of the dependencies of the imported drv.

For this, I would propose having an option to nix-instantiate like this:

$ nix-instantiate --include-ifd my-imported-drv.nix
/nix/store/00000000000000000000000000000000-my-drv.drv
/nix/store/00000000000000000000000000000000-my-imported-drv.drv

This way you could pipe it to something like cachix with:

$ nix-store -qR --include-outputs $(nix-instantiate --include-ifd my-imported-drv.nix) | cachix push my-cache

and have all dependencies cached. If this sounds like a good idea, I'd be happy to take a stab at implementing it.

/cc @domenkozar

[domenkozar]

Hell yes, that would really help with syncing to binary caches!

[disassembler]

@edolstra what's needed to get this done? It seems like a machine readable option is a bonus unrelated to just getting the logging. Do you think this could be merged as-is and @matthewbauer could put his new functionality in a follow-up?

[deepfire]

@grahamc, what do you think needs to be done (besides a rebase)?

[bqv]

Tumbleweed?

[stale]

I marked this as stale due to inactivity. → More info

[cleverca22]

not stale, i do intend to finish this at some point

[deepfire]

This works -- for example, in recent cardano-node:

[user@machine:~/cardano-node]$ nix flake show --option log-all-ifd true --option allow-import-from-derivation true -v
warning: unknown experimental feature 'ca-references'
warning: Git tree '/home/user/cardano-node' is dirty
evaluating ''...
git+file:///home/user/cardano-node
evaluating 'apps'...
├───apps
evaluating 'apps.x86_64-darwin'...
│   ├───x86_64-darwin
trace: WARNING: 8.10.5 is out of date, consider using 8.10.7.
trace: haskell-nix.haskellLib.cleanGit: /nix/store/q9lj3lzf4khxhl2w0mzhni2w190gv47w-source does not seem to be a git repository,
assuming it is a clean checkout.
trace: To make project.plan-nix for cardano-node a fixed-output derivation but not materialized, set `plan-sha256` to the output of the 'calculateMaterializedSha' script in 'passthru'.
trace: To materialize project.plan-nix for cardano-node entirely, pass a writable path as the `materialized` argument and run the 'updateMaterialized' script in 'passthru'.
trace: WARNING: 8.10.5 is out of date, consider using 8.10.7.
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/import-and-filter-project.nix:21:13 importing from derivation /nix/store/vnkwjg5aq1jkqy3cfjf6xlmz1ba8fp32-nix-tools-plan-to-nix-pkgs.drv via scopedImport
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/spdx/licenses.nix:6:8 importing from derivation /nix/store/dscrvrxsk3sc6q86vix26sdd4k7w3l09-spdx-license-list-data-3.12.drv via readFile
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/import-and-filter-project.nix:21:13 importing from derivation /nix/store/l6zrcg2d26n7gjyzsz5dqlp6xhdrl0ji-alex-plan-to-nix-pkgs.drv via scopedImport
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/spdx/licenses.nix:6:8 importing from derivation /nix/store/dscrvrxsk3sc6q86vix26sdd4k7w3l09-spdx-license-list-data-3.12.drv via readFile
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/import-and-filter-project.nix:21:13 importing from derivation /nix/store/2k63z16v1kphs60w763i9n4326sl34n9-happy-plan-to-nix-pkgs.drv via scopedImport
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/spdx/licenses.nix:6:8 importing from derivation /nix/store/dscrvrxsk3sc6q86vix26sdd4k7w3l09-spdx-license-list-data-3.12.drv via readFile
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/import-and-filter-project.nix:21:13 importing from derivation /nix/store/5dm6ijxsv3b5mga4bjqx2vzgdv4k2sfa-hscolour-plan-to-nix-pkgs.drv via scopedImport
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/spdx/licenses.nix:6:8 importing from derivation /nix/store/dscrvrxsk3sc6q86vix26sdd4k7w3l09-spdx-license-list-data-3.12.drv via readFile
/nix/store/jr8mn1grmhlp707j02hnm8pllr89pbsi-source/lib/import-and-filter-project.nix:21:13 importing from derivation /nix/store/hkvscbssj0cmkl5gl15xn84zrr5l3xmm-happy-plan-to-nix-pkgs.drv via scopedImport

[cidkidnix]

I've fixed/updated this PR/patch to work on Nix 2.9+ if anyone is interested
https://github.com/cidkidnix/nix/tree/log-ifd

[fricklerhandwerk]

Triaged in the Nix team meeting 2023-03-17:

The team was concerned it be too verbose, but since it's hidden behind a flag, should be OK. The idea is approved and we will shepherd the implementation to completion.

@cleverca22 are you still interested in finishing the PR?
In case not, @cidkidnix since you've rebased this somewhat recently (on Nix development time scales), would you be able to take it over?

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This pull request has been mentioned on NixOS Discourse. There might be relevant details there:

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/2023-03-17-nix-team-meeting-minutes-41/26614/1

[Ericson2314]

I am going to mark this draft because it is old with conflicts, and also because I suspect the rebase in #8094 will get there first.