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Improve IRC layout for SchildiChat #269
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Signed-off-by: Suguru Hirahara <luixxiul@users.noreply.github.com>
Thank you for the PR!
I'm also not sure yet, it's still quite experimental for how we approach it. (Note, for each upstream release, we now have a separate branch in the downstream repos, don't use the default branch for now to PR, until I build myself some automation to update default branches on each upstream release) If we were to PR patches against this repo, you should use a higher patch number than the existing patches, we want to ensure that those patches related to core SchildiChat changes come before third-party contributions which may be dropped. On the topic of the patch itself, looks like there's many changes to |
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It is indeed hard to see it because of the diff structure, but the patch only changes lines inside |
It might be so for both contributors and reviewers. Let me create one. |
Created a PR with the same change here against Edit: you would have to swap git submodule with your forked repository (example/element-web), which probably is worth mentioning on a documentation for contributors. |
We already have the submodules pointing to our repos in |
Maybe so, but I cannot remember quite well. Thanks for taking care of SchildiChat/element-web#4 (comment) 😃 |
Reason why this PR was submitted for SchildiChat:
Because I like SchildiChat Web, and I no longer want to participate to development of Element Web, while I value Matrix ecosystem as a whole, which is governed by Matrix Foundation.
Until a couple of years I have actively contributed to matrix-react-sdk which was managed by the Foundation. For example, the current implementation of IRC layout is mostly due to my contributions, which are based on previous implementations on
_IRClayout.pcss
.For the old repository managed by the foundation, you probably would have expected full transparency of the SDK's development, because it was not under
vector-im
orelement-hq
. But it has not really been transparent. The decision making was apparently conducted inside private Matrix rooms, available for Element's employers and employees only, private Figma projects, etc. Element had owned the development of the SDK.On the repository, some annoying experiences has happened to me. For example, even if you have implemented something for the sake of SDK, that change was soon practically reverted without saying sorry or anything. On another PR, I even got a comment on which a reviewer (who is also the employee of Element) expressed that the person did not welcome my contribution, which must have been nonsense for the person. I revisited the PR to write this, and I remembered how much I have felt annoyed by that shitty attitude toward unpaid contributors like me.
I mean, that was like "what am I doing here, being neither paid nor thanked?"
Due to such kind of annoying experiences, some of which were obviously due to the messy organizational relationship between Matrix Foundation and Element (note: that kind of non-transparency seems to be gradually improving thanks to the Governance Board at the Foundation), I stopped to contribute to
matrix-org/matrix-react-sdk
. Now this repository was archived and basically merged intoelement-hq/element-web
, which was absolutely right move, and I cannot understand why this has not happened million years ago.Still, I value Matrix ecosystem as a whole pretty much. While I have decided I would not contribute to Element itself anymore, there are other projects which seem to be interesting, funny, free, and open to foreign contributors than Element is; I'm quite certain that some members will remain hostile against other outside contributors, because they have to earn money to live anyway (which is none of my business, by the way; I also need to earn money to live).
The same kind of resentment I have toward Element can be seen by other people here for example. And, against the comment, the owner encourages them to see SchildiChat as example of community effort.
Indeed, I find this looks to me a fair comment.
So I found it made zero sense for me (or indeed all of us) to "ask" Element to my contribution to review, without me being paid or my contributions honored. Instead, it makes sense to contribute to the project which I like and honor.
To someone who want to merge this change to Element Web: if you remove the credit, I will consult with an organization like Software Freedom Conservancy.
Closes SchildiChat/matrix-react-sdk#21
Retry of #268 (accidentally closed)
This PR is essentially a retry of SchildiChat/matrix-react-sdk#21 and intends to improve the IRC layout for SchildiChat, fixing several issues logged on the upstream repository as well. For detailed explanation, please check the superseded PR of mine.
As I am not quite sure of the workflow for the lite branch yet, please let me know what else to be done.
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