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Add proposal for lambda improvements #4451

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@cston cston commented Feb 19, 2021

Support lambdas with attributes, explicit return type, and natural type.


lambda_parameter
: identifier
| (attribute_list* modifier* type)? identifier equals_value_clause?
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couold we do: attribute_list? (modifier* type)? identifier equals_value_clause? instead?

it seems like ([x] a) => ... is reasonable, and doesn't require the user to have to provide full types for lambdas that want attributes. #Resolved

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I'm of 2 minds on this:

  1. We don't allow you specify just the ref today. If you want more signature than just a name, you have to have the whole signature. This decision is in line with that.
  2. Declaration of ref/out parameters in lambdas without typename #338 is championed and would remove that restriction, so why add a similar restriction here? #Resolved

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Exactly :) but even if we don't do #338, i wouldn't perpetuate this. :) #Resolved

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Added an open issue for now.


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f = delegate ([MyAttribute] int x) { return x; }; // syntax error
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Attributes on the lambda or lambda parameters will be emitted to metadata on the method that maps to the lambda. (If the lambda does not require a closure class, the lambda is emitted as a method on the containing type. Otherwise the lambda is as a method on the generated closure class.)
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Do we have existing guarantees this strong about how lambdas are emitted? #Resolved

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No we do not. This would be a change from previous versions of C#. The goal is to mirror the decisions and language we made for local functions. #Resolved

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iirc this is a huge perf hit for some lambdas due to the this shuffle with delegates. remember that we only ever emit local functions like this when they're not converted to delegates

An explicit return type may be specified after the parameter list.
```csharp
f = () : T => default; // () : T
f = x : int => 1; // <unknown> : int
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Might be a better example if it's a type we couldn't infer, like short. #Resolved

## Natural type
A lambda expression has a natural type if the parameters types are explicit and either the return type is explicit or there is a common type from the natural types of all `return` expressions in the body. Otherwise there is no natural type.

A method group has a natural type if the method group contains a single method and the method or reduced extension method has no unbound type parameters.
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Do we need to explicitly mention reduced extension methods? I think just "the method" would be fine? #Resolved

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### Anonymous delegate type
If synthesized delegate types are required, the compiler generates generic anonymous delegate types that are shared across all anonymous delegates in the module that have the same number of parameters and same parameter ref kinds.
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And parameter types, return type, return type ref kind. #Resolved

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Unless you're saying that these anonymous types are generic? Not sure from reading this. Would still need to have return ref matching, and matching on whether the return is void or not. #Resolved

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Also should mention async-ness.

Unless you're saying that these anonymous types are generic?

In practice the implementation would be generic, just as anonymous types are today in C# and anonymous types + anonymous delegates are in VB. As for what the spec says, I would re-use the language in the C# spec for anonymous types. #Resolved

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Unless you're saying that these anonymous types are generic?

Yes, the anonymous delegate types are generic with type parameters for parameter and return types. The type of a specific lambda expression or method group would be a constructed type of the shared anonymous delegate type.


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Updated the comment for re-using synthesized delegate types.


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The names of the synthesized delegate types and the names of the parameters are unspeakable.

The anonymous delegate types are not co- or contra-variant unlike the delegates constructed from `System.Action<>` and `System.Func<>`.
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This seems possibly unnecessary. If I'm reading correctly that these anonymous types are generic, it feels like we should make value params and returns contra/covariant, as appropriate, to ease other friction points. #Resolved


```antlr
lambda_expression
: attribute_list* modifier* lambda_parameters (':' type)? '=>' (block | body)
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The : does feel like the natural thing to do, but I'm concerned that there's going to be ambiguities with ?: expressions we have today. Are we certain this is a syntax form that we can support? #Resolved

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Might easier to parse if we put it inside the ()? Like var a = (: string) => "";? Looks a bit ugly, but I don't believe it's ambiguous. #Resolved

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i hate that form @333fred :)

THe potential ambiguity would be something like:

x ? (y) : ...

is that one of these new lambdas on the RHS of the ? or is this a parenthesized expression? Given that this is a legal start, it might be painful to disambiguate.

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Note: supplying the return type explicitly is one of hte least interesting parts of this proposal for me. I wouldn't gate it on that, and i'd be happy to drop it and come up with an independent solution there. #Resolved

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i hate that form @333fred :)

I didn't say I liked my form either :P. I just don't think that : postfixes are resolvable. #Resolved

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How about (int x, int y => int) ?

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I've recorded the possible ambiguity as an issue for now.


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What about (int a, int b) -> int?
We have -> only for pointers and it makes it more clear - at least to me - that this specifies the return type.

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Doesn't that end up looking like this?

var f = (int a, int b) -> int => a + b;

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var f = (int a, int b) : int => a + b;

Not sure about the -> followed by the =>. It does give me haskell vibes though...

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In this case I dislike the second "arrow", too.
Perhaps the arrow could be omitted in case of an explicit return type followed by a block syntax - which means that we could write for example:

var fkt = (int a, int b) -> int
{
    return a + b;
};

For simple expression lambdas the explicit return type is not so important - but for complex lambdas this proposal is a very huge improvement.

## Natural type
A lambda expression has a natural type if the parameters types are explicit and either the return type is explicit or there is a common type from the natural types of all `return` expressions in the body. Otherwise there is no natural type.

A method group has a natural type if the method group contains a single method and the method or reduced extension method has no unbound type parameters.
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A method group has a natural type if the method group contains a single method [](start = 0, length = 78)

See #129 (comment) and #129 (comment). How this address those points?
Also #129 itself seems to be covered by this change? #Resolved

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Good catch, thanks @alrz. I've added an open issue that determining the natural type of a method group may require searching for all extension method candidates.


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## Natural type
A lambda expression has a natural type if the parameters types are explicit and either the return type is explicit or there is a common type from the natural types of all `return` expressions in the body. Otherwise there is no natural type.
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Should there be a natural type for async lambdas? If so, Task or ValueTask? #Resolved

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Ah good catch yes there should. We should spell out the rules here in the spec to make it clear that's supported #Resolved

var f6 = F1; // error: multiple methods
var f7 = "".F1; // System.Action
var f8 = F2; // System.Action<string>
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One part I think we should elaborate on is that this specifically would allow us to call methods which take a Delegate as a parameter with arguments that are just lambda expressions. For example:

void M(Delegate d) { ... }
M(() => 42); // okay
M(x: int => 13); // okay because natural type takes over 

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### Anonymous delegate type
If synthesized delegate types are required, the compiler generates generic anonymous delegate types that are shared across all anonymous delegates in the module that have the same number of parameters and same parameter ref kinds.

The names of the synthesized delegate types and the names of the parameters are unspeakable.
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I'm not sure I understand this. Does this mean that Delegate.Method.GetParameters() won't return ParameterInfos with the actual Name of the parameters for lambdas requiring synthesized delegate types? The parameter names are important to MapAction(). Or is this referring to some other parameter name? #Resolved

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The parameter names are important to MapAction().

Then don't we have a more fundamental problem? If the parameter names matter then any re-use of the Action and Func types will not work because we can't change the names of them. #Resolved

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Considering we already get preserved parameter names when we explicitly cast a method group to the appropriate Action or Func, I assumed this is something that was stored in the Action or Func instance rather than baked into the types themselves.

Ex: https://github.com/halter73/HoudiniPlayground/blob/574242d9b971620b4e7e7e71c69240be1a053667/Program.cs#L16-L21 #Resolved

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I think this isn't a problem as the synthesized delegate type's invoke method may have generic names, but Delegate.Method.GetParameters() will still have the correct names.

Func<int,int> foo = (int horse)=>horse;
Console.WriteLine(foo.Method.GetParameters()[0].Name)

prints "horse". #Resolved

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I assumed this is something that was stored in the Action or Func instance rather than baked into the types themselves.

All delegates track the runtime method handle of the target method, which is what you're getting when you reference the Method property. That's how you get the parameter names of the target method instead of the placeholder parameter names of the Func<...> delegates themselves, e.g. arg1, arg2`, etc. #Resolved

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Right. This works fine, we care about the target method, not the delegate parameters. #Resolved

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davidfowl commented Feb 25, 2021

@halter73 and I were just discussion something we want to make sure is called out in the spec wrt type inference and overload resolution. Consider the following overloads:

public static class EndpointRouteBuilderExtensions
{
    public static IEndpointConventionBuilder MapGet(this IEndpointRouteBuilder routes, string pattern, Func<HttpContext, Task> requestDelegate)
    {
        return null;
    }

    public static IEndpointConventionBuilder MapGet(this IEndpointRouteBuilder routes, string pattern, Delegate @delegate)
    {
        return null;
    }
}

public class Startup
{
    public void Configure(IApplicationBuilder app)
    {
        app.UseRouting();

        app.UseEndpoints(endpoints =>
        {
            // This should pick the `Func<HttpContext, Task>` overload
            endpoints.MapGet("/hello", context => context.Response.WriteAsync("Hello World")); 

            // This should pick the Delegate overload
            endpoints.MapGet("/hello2", (int c) => Task.CompletedTask);
        });
    }
}

Normally before lambdas have a natural type the second overload wouldn't be possible but now it is and it should choose the right overload appropriately (though I know overloading is a source of complication in the language) #Resolved

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jaredpar commented Feb 25, 2021

@davidfowl indeed, was chatting with @cston this morning about adding similar style samples to the spec to make the updates clear here #Resolved

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Regarding natural lambda types, does that come with any relaxation when passing a lambda to a method that accepts a different delegate type that has a compatible signature? If not it seems like you couldn't really pass those synthetically created lambdas anywhere without casting to the explicit delegate type which would make the feature a lot less useful, IMO.

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davidfowl commented Feb 25, 2021

Regarding natural lambda types, does that come with any relaxation when passing a lambda to a method that accepts a different delegate type that has a compatible signature? If not it seems like you couldn't really pass those synthetically created lambdas anywhere without casting to the explicit delegate type which would make the feature a lot less useful, IMO.

So to be clear, you're asking about this scenario:

void Main()
{
    var f = (Span<int> s) => s[0] + 1; // Compiler generates:   delegate int CustomDelegate$0(Span<int> s);
    Call(f); // Compiler error because CustomDelegate$0 != CompatibleButDifferent
}

public delegate int CompatibleButDifferent(Span<int> s);

void Call(CompatibleButDifferent del)
{
    d(new byte[100]);
}

Feels like a much rarer scenario to me. It would matter in places where a Func/Action type couldn't be used so that means, byref types (because of generics), out and ref parameters (not sure what else besides those).

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Feels like a much rarer scenario to me. It would matter in places where a Func/Action type couldn't be used

Or with any API that doesn't use Func<...>/Action<...> delegate types, which isn't terribly uncommon. In all but the simplest of situations I prefer to define my own delegates as I can explicitly name the parameters and offer XML documentation.

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Or with any API that doesn't use Func<...>/Action<...> delegate types, which isn't terribly uncommon. In all but the simplest of situations I prefer to define my own delegates as I can explicitly name the parameters and offer XML documentation.

I get it, I don't think its as pervasive anymore since the dawn of Func and Action. I hear you on the parameter types and documentation as well (though those don't show up super well in the IDE today). ASP.NET does this today for the RequestDelegate and it means this wouldn't work:

public delegate Task RequestDelegate(HttpContext context);

void Configure(IApplicationBuilder app)
{
  var f = (HttpContext context) => context.Response.WriteAsync("Hello World"); // infers Func<HttpContext, Task>
  app.Run(f); // Fails to convert Func<HttpContext, Task> to RequestDelegate
}

This does seem related to the overall set of features here but could be generalized as structurally compatible delegate conversions should work. I think that goes against the mantra that delegates are type safe .

dotnet/runtime#4331 (ah look it's your issue 😉 )

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I think that goes against the mantra that delegates are type safe .

Which goes against the design of Action<...> and Func<...> in general where the only relevant aspect of the type is the signature.

Discounting the prevalence of Action<...>/Func<...> the concept makes no sense with generated unspeakable delegates as it is impossible to write an API that can accept them. They only seem useful with APIs that accept Delegate, which are much less common beasts, especially such APIs designed to accept delegates that use ref parameters or other such things that prevent them from reusing the existing Action<...>/Func<...> delegates.

Anyway the argument against lambda inference in the past has always been that you need to know the type of the delegate so that you can actually do something with the instance of the delegate, like pass it to a method, and that the compiler doesn't (and shouldn't) have special knowledge of Func<...> or Action<...> over any other delegate. Whether or not you agree with the second point it seems very awkward to have a language feature like this without trying to address these points specifically.

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Anyway the argument against lambda inference in the past has always been that you need to know the type of the delegate so that you can actually do something with the instance of the delegate, like pass it to a method, and that the compiler doesn't (and shouldn't) have special knowledge of Func<...> or Action<...> over any other delegate. Whether or not you agree with the second point it seems very awkward to have a language feature like this without trying to address these points specifically.

Trying to solve both during the same timeframe seem fine but I don't think they are coupled and one can exist without the other.

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HaloFour commented Feb 25, 2021

I'll also reference a previous proposal/discussion I posted on the subject of inferred lambdas: #1694

What I like about the approach is that the compiler doesn't take a position on the actual type generated until it is used, at which point the compiler knows which delegate type to use, if one at all. If the lambda is used as a delegate anywhere in the method then the compiler will emit the appropriate display class and create/cache the delegate instance by type at the point of first usage. The cost would be a single allocation for the display class and one allocation for each delegate type referencing the lambda. If the lambda is not used as a delegate at all then the compiler can emit the more optimized machinery for a local function instead.

Local functions I think offer precedence for this behavior:

public void M(List<Item> list) {
    bool f(Item item) => item.IsExpired;

    list.RemoveAll(f);
    list = list.Where(f).ToList();
}

And to me I think it makes sense for "natural lambdas" to be an alternate syntax to local functions. You can't convert a local function to a Delegate now, but it seems that would be something that would be easy to add in those cases where it's needed.

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... the compiler doesn't (and shouldn't) have special knowledge of Func<...> or Action<...> over any other delegate.

The compiler already has special knowledge of Func<> and Action<> up to 16 generic arguments

http://sourceroslyn.io/#Microsoft.CodeAnalysis/WellKnownTypes.cs,3bb7bf76580e8f66

What I like about the approach is that the compiler doesn't take a position on the actual type generated until it is used, at which point the compiler knows which delegate type to use, if one at all.

This is essentially an entire new kind of type inference though. Essentially delay the decision of var until we see how the local is actually used in production. That is a feature that would be generally useful, not just for lambdas. Consider:

var local = 42;
M(out local); 
void M(out long l) { ... }

That would benefit from the same type of delayed type inference. As such it seems, while useful and very challenging to implement, an orthogonal concept.

This does seem related to the overall set of features here but could be generalized as structurally compatible delegate conversions should work. I think that goes against the mantra that delegates are type safe .
dotnet/runtime#4331 (ah look it's your issue 😉 )

This is definitely the type of feature I'd like to see.

Feels like a much rarer scenario to me. It would matter in places where a Func/Action type couldn't be used so that means, byref types (because of generics), out and ref parameters (not sure what else besides those).

Short term this is likely a better avenue to approach. For example:

  • Conisder expanding the set of existing delegates to support standard out patterns (last parameter is out)
  • Allow ref struct to be used as generic type arguments in delegate. This is safe and even the lose proposals I've written for where T: ref struct keep coming back to the conclusion that we should assume all delegate generic parameters are marked this way. Need to do some more validation but it's worth investigating.

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HaloFour commented Feb 26, 2021

@jaredpar

This is essentially an entire new kind of type inference though.

Possibly, although I'm not arguing for taking it that far as 1 already has a type, whereas a lambda expression does not.

Short term this is likely a better avenue to approach.

Why? It doesn't seem to solve the biggest problem, which is that you can't use Action<...>/Func<...> with ref/out/in parameters. How many APIs exist that both accept a Delegate and expect that Delegate to have one of those parameter types? You can't otherwise use these synthetic delegates anywhere.

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I'd suggest that the ASP.NET API use cases can all be solved without adding inference of lambda variables to the language. If the plan is to allow conversion from method group to Delegate in C# 10 then the same could be done with lambda expressions. That would enable both of the following:

app.UseEndpoints(endpoints =>
{
    Task hello1(int x) => Task.CompletedTask;
    endpoints.MapGet("/hello1", hello1);

    endpoints.MapGet("/hello2", (int c) => Task.CompletedTask);   
});

Because of this my opinion is that it isn't necessary to explore inference of lambda variables at this time. I think having to choose between Action<...>/Func<...> or an unspeakable synthetic delegate type limits the functionality of that feature too much. One of the arguments made in Discord about wanting such a variable to behave like a variable and not like a local method is to have reference identity, which I can understand, however these delegate types are already incompatible with event handlers and coercing them to EventHandler<T>-compatible delegates would break that identity.

I'd rather see this space re-explored with the appropriate runtime support for signature equivalence and/or a more flexible approach rather than implementing something now that could not be changed without observable breaking changes in the future.

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I don't understand how suggesting a runtime feature changes any of this...

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halter73 commented Feb 26, 2021

Can we also add support for optional parameters in lambdas? It would be useful for endpoints like the following and would be natural to developers used to defining similar actions inside of MVC controllers.

endpoints.MapGet("/products", ([FromQuery] int pageIndex = 0, [FromService] ProductsDb db) =>
	db.GetProductsAsync(pageIndex));

Tangentially related: It looks like local functions lose default parameters in the compiler generated method. This could cause problems for developers trying to use local functions instead of lambdas with MapAction. I filed a separate issue for that at dotnet/roslyn#51518 Thanks @Kahbazi for finding this!

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Tangentially related: It looks like local functions lose default parameters in the compiler generated method. This could cause problems for developers trying to use local functions instead of lambdas with MapAction.

This is something we should be tracking in this proposal. Part of doing attributes on the emitted methods rationalizing that it's important, and okay, for these members to be seen from metadata. That would include logic like emitting our optional member metadata.

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Attributes on the lambda or lambda parameters will be emitted to metadata on the method that maps to the lambda.
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Think we should elaborate on this point a bit. In the past we have taken a very hard stance that we don't want customers taking a dependency on how lambdas and local funcs map from source to metadata. The structure of how the are emitted can, and has, changed between compiler versions. This has, and will continue, to break customers that attempt to take a dependency on how source maps to metadata.

The changes we are making here are more targeted at the Delegate driven scenario. It's completely valid to look at the MethodInfo attached to a Delegate and dig into its properties. Emitting the explicit attributes to metadata here, as well as any other supporting attribute in code or emitted by compiler (items like default params), is intended to support this type of usage by customers. It allows for teams like ASP.NET to make the same types of behaviors on lambdas that they do for normal functions as well as allowing for features like trimming to handle lambdas appropriately.

It does not change the overall stance that customer should not depend on how items like lambdas map from source to metadata . #Resolved

Invoke(GetString); // Invoke(Func<string>)
Invoke(GetInt); // Invoke(Delegate) [new]
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Think we need a couple of counter examples here showing where method group and lambda conversions will not work after this change. Specifically:

  1. Cases where there are multiple candidates in the method group which means we can't infer a natural type
  2. Cases where the return type of the lambda cannot be inferred hence the lambda does not have a natural type #Resolved


[ASP.NET MapAction](https://github.com/dotnet/aspnetcore/pull/29878) without proposed changes (`MapAction()` takes a `System.Delegate` argument):
```csharp
[HttpGet("/")] Todo GetTodo() => new(Id: 0, Name: "Name");
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@halter73 we should get these samples updated.

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Yeah. One issue with that is the current updated samples rely heavily on conventions for parameter binding and we no longer use an attribute for specifying the route pattern or HTTP method. That said, all the parameter attributes can still be optionally applied.

app.MapPut("/todos/{id}", async ([FromRoute(Name = "id")] int identifier, [FromBody] Todo inputTodo, [FromServices] TodoDb db) =>
{
    var todo = await db.Todos.FindAsync(identifier);

    if (todo is null) return NotFound();

    todo.Title = inputTodo.Title;
    todo.IsComplete = inputTodo.IsComplete;

    await db.SaveChangesAsync();

    return NoContent();
});

## Attributes
Attributes may be added to lambda expressions.
```csharp
f = [MyAttribute] x => x; // [MyAttribute]lambda
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This is the form that I think should not be allowed because it could plausibly mean either [MyAttribute] (int x) => x or ([MyAttribute] int x) => x. I think we should require parens around the argument list if you're using attributes. #Resolved

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@cston is there an open question in this doc for that? #Resolved

app.MapAction([HttpPost("/")] ([FromBody] Todo todo) => todo);
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So excited to change all of our roslyn tests to lambdas :) Right now they can only be local functions :(

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333fred commented Mar 5, 2021

Proposal needs to be moved from the proposals/csharp-10.0 folder to proposals. The 10.0 folder will be filled when we know what actually shipped. #Resolved

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cston commented Mar 5, 2021

Proposal needs to be moved from the proposals/csharp-10.0 folder to proposals.

Sounds good. Perhaps we can move the proposal after merging, to avoid breaking the links to existing comments in the this PR.


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```csharp
f = [MyAttribute] x => x; // [MyAttribute]lambda
f = [MyAttribute] (int x) => x; // [MyAttribute]lambda
f = [MyAttribute] static x => x; // [MyAttribute]lambda
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This form is also probably included in the question about parameter parenthesization #Resolved

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_Does the `: type` return type syntax introduce ambiguities with `?:` that cannot be resolved easily?_
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Consider including the alternative forms we discussed in LDM.

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I'll update the syntax based on the LDM and subsequent meetings in a separate PR.


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LGTM (commit 9). My remaining comments can be resolved in a follow up, if you prefer. In that followup, please update the link in https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/blob/master/meetings/2021/LDM-2021-03-03.md#natural-type-for-lambdas to point to the checked in document, rather than this PR.

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cston commented Mar 6, 2021

In that followup, please update the link in https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang/blob/master/meetings/2021/LDM-2021-03-03.md#natural-type-for-lambdas to point to the checked in document, rather than this PR.

Will do, thanks.


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@cston cston merged commit 7397714 into dotnet:master Mar 6, 2021
@cston cston deleted the lambdas branch March 6, 2021 00:09
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