Usability of 3-dot "More Apps" Menu with many Apps

[juliusstoerrle]

As admin I lately get mails with "I can't find app X anymore".
It's not a technical problem, as the apps are activated, but the users can't find them. To find them they need to scroll down in the "More Apps" popover, which is not clearly indicated and overseen by some users.

Steps to reproduce

1. activate many apps (>15)
2. click on the 3 dots "More Apps" Icon in the Top Nav Bar
3. popover with apps is displayed, some apps are not in the "viewport" as the Popover has a max-height.
4. the scrollbar is not clearly visible (in Sarafi only a slim grey bar)

Expected behaviour

Users should find all apps with ease

Actual behaviour

As the target should be to make it easily usable to all users, I feel like this popover should be revisited.
I don't think it is good to get rid of the popover max-height. Maybe we can indicate with some arrow that more apps are below or redesign the popover to be fullscreen with a grid layout.

Server configuration

Nextcloud version: (see Nextcloud admin page)
14.0.3

Client configuration

Browser:
Safari mainly, but Firefox sometimes too

[nextcloud-bot]

GitMate.io thinks possibly related issues are #9715 (More apps menu wrong location), #10716 (More apps menu not position in the right place), #4966 (3 dots menu in apps header should bring full apps list instead of another entry requiring an extra click to get the list), #10723 (Fixes more apps menu and settings/user menu positions), and #10853 (Fix apps menu on mobile).

[ChristophWurst]

cc @skjnldsv @jancborchardt

[skjnldsv]

and @juliushaertl for the menu :)

[jancborchardt]

@juliusstoerrle could you show a screenshot?

Normally for a scrolling list it is enough to cut it off at a ½ entry to indicate there's more below. Wo do this in other lists like the share list and should do this here too.

I think the value we use for height of container is 5½ rows, is it?

[juliusstoerrle]

cutting it of after half an entry sounds like a viable solution.

I can only provide a screenshot of Chrome:

As you can see the scrollbar is there, but melts into the shadow and some users just don't look that closely.

[skjnldsv]

@juliusstoerrle That's the issue. We usually try to have an half entry on every menu :)

[jancborchardt]

@juliusstoerrle there is a pull request to fix this at #12785 – could you review and see if this fix works for you? 🙂

[skjnldsv]

What the hell.
Let me fix it!

EDIT: ah well, apparently I already fixed it in #12785
I'm too fast for myself! 🚀

[MorrisJobke]

Sorry - wrong ticket - commented over there.