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API stability level «Locked» is inaccurate #6528
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This has been discussed before. As much as I don't like it, we kinda need to strongly signal we don't take much in terms of features so some modules.
It's mostly to keep people from willy-nilly proposing anything. |
That being said, timers is the least locked in the bunch, but we won't normally take features for it. |
@Fishrock123 Well, it doesn't work. It should be either followed, reworded in the docs, or removed completely. |
@ChALkeR that wording work for you? |
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Rewording in order to reflect more accurately the current flow seems like an improvement for me. @nodejs/documentation |
I think making clear the actual purpose of "Locked" is a good idea. Is it as @Fishrock123 has proposed?:
Has "Locked" had that affect vs. modules marked as "Stable"? Has anyone compiled any data on it? It is a good idea to say that there can never be any improvements (additional features) added to a module? Is that better than saying such suggestions are strongly discouraged and likely to be ignored? Understanding the purpose of marking a module as a "Locked" (especially vs. "Stable") is important with respect to determining how/when it should be used and what documentation should go along with that label. What other systems go out of their way to make that differentiation -- and what has been the outcome? |
@Fishrock123, @jasnell The issue here is that the description of the «Locked» API stability level is actually misleading, given what is actually going on. New features (new methods, documented), new throws, behaviour changes — all of that has been recently landed to the modules that are «Locked» per the documentation. It looks more like a form of «Very Stable» to me, but I have no idea yet of how should that be documented. |
Yes. We semi-regularly reject feature requests and/or major changes in those areas. |
@Fishrock123 Even if it works that way, the feature requests and/or major changes that slip through are breaking user expectations there. |
Should just rename it to LockedUnlessOtherwiseDeemedNecessary |
Considering this has come up a few times most recently in #3384 do you think it makes sense to bring this up with the ctc in the next meeting? |
I'd say we should rephrase |
To be honest I would personally like to see us revisit these levels entirely now that we have a solid LTS process in place. Technically, every API in an LTS release is |
@jasnell On the other hand: especially now that for many people (looking at us for example) there's at least one year where we don't see anything happening on master, having strict stability of certain APIs across LTS versions allows us to trust that we don't have to "rewrite" our apps for the next LTS of node. So far almost every node upgrade across major versions (0.8/0.10/various io.js/4) has been very smooth and only required some limited, straight-forward work ("method X was removed, it's now Y, do this to support both"). Allowing subtle changes to the module system between LTS versions will make upgrades a lot scarier. |
Refs: #7964 |
@jasnell That doesn't say anything about the API stability levels or clarify what changes could be landed there, though. |
I know, was just linking the issues. There's more that works need to be done |
Status update: #11304 landed, |
Ah, for issue linking purposes: #11200 has the new discussion about changing the |
Fixed in 51cea05 |
Atm, these modules are listed in the documentation as being
Locked
:assert,modules, timers.Update:
assert
was successfully unlocked in #11304. 🎉Update:
timers
was successfully unlocked in #11580. 🎉Locked
is defined as:Still we have those changes recently landed (~ 1 year):
assert
: Consistent error messages in all modules #3374, assert: introducedeepStrictEqual
#639, assert: use util.inspect() to create error messages #668, assert: throw when block is not a function #308 (ok, that one is present since 1.0.0), borderline features/bug fixes: assert: respect assert.doesNotThrow message. #2407, assert: accommodate ES6 classes that extend Error #4166, assert: support arrow functions in .throws() #3276, assert: don't compare objectprototype
property #636,modules
: module: preserve symlinks when requiring #5950, module: prioritize current directory for local lookup #5689, src: fix module search path for preload modules #1812, module: restore and warn on require('.') usage with NODE_PATH #1363, module: fix require('.') #1185, lib: remove broken NODE_MODULE_CONTEXTS feature #1162,timers
: timers: Fail early when callback is not a function #4362, Consistent error messages in all modules #3374, net: throw on invalid socket timeouts node-v0.x-archive#8884.And more proposed: #10282, #3384, #6165, #4550 (ok, the last two are not documented).
How
Locked
is defined does not fall in line with what's actually going on there. It looks more like stability levelStable
should be used instead:Perhaps we should remove
Locked
stability level whatsoever?/cc @nodejs/ctc
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