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Tracking Issue for thread::sleep_until #113752

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dvdsk opened this issue Jul 16, 2023 · 11 comments
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Tracking Issue for thread::sleep_until #113752

dvdsk opened this issue Jul 16, 2023 · 11 comments
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C-tracking-issue Category: A tracking issue for an RFC or an unstable feature. F-sleep_until `#![feature(sleep_until)]` T-libs-api Relevant to the library API team, which will review and decide on the PR/issue.

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dvdsk commented Jul 16, 2023

Feature gate: #![feature(sleep_until)]

This is a tracking issue for the thread::sleep_until method. It pauses the
current thread until a given deadline.

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// std::thread

pub fn sleep_until(deadline: Instant)

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Unresolved Questions

  • Clock used: should the clock be the same as thread::sleep, something different or passed
    in by the user?
  • Deadline type: should the argument be an Instant, a SystemTime or do we support both?

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  1. https://std-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/feature-lifecycle/stabilization.html

@dvdsk dvdsk added C-tracking-issue Category: A tracking issue for an RFC or an unstable feature. T-libs-api Relevant to the library API team, which will review and decide on the PR/issue. labels Jul 16, 2023
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dvdsk commented Jul 16, 2023

The clock

Each of the three options has its downsides:

  • Sleep is not consistent between platforms. For example on Linux time
    suspended is not counted while on other Unixes it is. Not counting time
    suspended is a bad default, kernel devs tried to fix, which caused enough issues it was reverted soon after. That just underlines the need to get this right before stabilizing.

  • Using a different clock could get confusing, for example when the time slept
    by sleep_until was different from what a sleep call would yield. Finally, if
    the argument is of type Instant then the time slept should match what
    Instant::elapsed reports. It currently uses the Monotonic clock on all
    platforms.

  • Making the clock a choice, means designing a new clock API (proposed in the
    APC by @the8472). It would make 'sleep_until' more complex to use and breaks
    the similarity between it and sleep.

I think the clock question is not constrained to sleep_until. There are more
APIs that could support configurable clocks. I propose we separate that question
from sleep_until and address it in its own APC.

There we can figure out:

  • Whether configurable clocks fit in the std.
  • Which parts of the std to extend/support.
  • What form the new API takes.
  • How to support all platforms and deal with platforms without a real OS but
    that still support the std such as the esp32.

I would love to write a Pre-Rfc for such an API if we decide to go that route.

Type of the deadline argument

I am in favor of using Instant, that implies monotonic behavior which is
needed for most use cases (cache invalidation etc.). We could offer a version
that can take a SystemTime as argument. I am not aware of any use cases for
that though I would love to hear them.

If we decide to support both we need to figure out if we want two functions or
a generic argument. The latter would involve introducing a trait, maybe
Deadline?

bors added a commit to rust-lang-ci/rust that referenced this issue Sep 17, 2023
Add implementation for thread::sleep_until

- Feature gate is `thread::sleep_until`
- Tracking issue is: rust-lang#113752
- APC: rust-lang/libs-team#237
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SUPERCILEX commented Sep 24, 2023

Are there OS APIs that support sleeping to a deadline? The current implementation will have large tail latencies:

    let now = Instant::now();

    if let Some(delay) = deadline.checked_duration_since(now) {
        // Context switch here. Oops, now we'll end up arbitrarily blowing past the deadline
        sleep(delay);
    }

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the8472 commented Sep 24, 2023

There's clock_nanosleep that supports deadlines, it has been part of POSIX for a while so I assume a lot of unices have it.

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the8472 commented Sep 24, 2023

We could offer a version that can take a SystemTime as argument. I am not aware of any use cases for that though I would love to hear them.

Wall-time based synchronization/execution of events. E.g. if something is supposed to run in a cronjob-like fashion. Or a distributed protocol that says "nodes try to rendezvous every 5 minutes, at the start of a minute divisible by 5, UTC".

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dvdsk commented Sep 24, 2023

There's clock_nanosleep that supports deadlines, it has been part of POSIX for a while so I assume a lot of unices have it.

Thanks for bringing this up! We can freely use that on Linux, the minimum kernel version current Rust supports includes it. I would have to check it for POSIX. Even if that does not pan out we should 'specialize' this method on Linux.

Before we go down that road I would like to nail down the API. To answer that we must know whether we want a Clock API in Rust. That however is better addressed in a separate proposal. I am more then willing to write that up however I would like to estimate interest first.

I am not sure how to proceed there, an option would be to create a crate that adds a clock API to std-lib functions/types where appropriate (using traits). Then look at how popular that gets over time. (taking care to prevent an itertools situation). Another easier path would be a users forum post or github code search.

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the8472 commented Sep 24, 2023

You could also look at prior art in other languages and frequently used libraries. E.g. C++ has it std::chrono.

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joboet commented Sep 24, 2023

There's clock_nanosleep that supports deadlines, it has been part of POSIX for a while so I assume a lot of unices have it.

macOS and the other Apple platforms don't have it, even on the newest versions.

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the8472 commented Sep 24, 2023

There seems to be a function called mach_wait_until but I can't find any docs for it.

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dvdsk commented Nov 23, 2023

Replying to @neachdainn who commented on the RFC

I just want to point out that the proposed solution isn't a full.

It's temporary, the idea was to see if we could take the clock choice further and introduce a clock API. That would allow use of clocks that are not supported on each platform (such as clock BOOTTIME). Unfortunately I haven't done that yet.

I am gonna paraphrase your use case here, I think it is an important one:

use case: running a robotic control. Using an OS. Need to make sure that the thread is going to wake up at exactly the specified time:

fn run() {
  let deadline = Instant::now() + INTERVAL;
  loop {
    do_quick_calculation_and_set_pins();
    thread::sleep_until(deadline);
    deadline += INTERVAL;
  }
}

As it is critical to the above use case I will open a PR to switch over the placeholder implementation for Linux to use clock_nanosleep with TIMER_ABSTIME. We should also document the behavior when using real time schedulers.

Then I will see if we can get the same behavior on the other operation systems.

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dvdsk commented Nov 26, 2023

This is a tracking comment tracking the effort to specialize/optimizing the sleep_until implementation for major target_os's.

Possible/In progress:

Seems impossible for now

Hard

  • espidf, could not find a documentation listing supported Libc api's/Syscalls

Ignored

  • aix
  • emscripten
  • haiku
  • hermit
  • horizon
  • hurd
  • l4re
  • nto
  • psp
  • redox
  • solid_asp3
  • uefi
  • unknown
  • vita
  • vxworks
  • xous

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biabbas commented Aug 9, 2024

@dvdsk Clock Nano sleep is available in libc for VxWorks.

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