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Stabilize the backtrace feature. #72981

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Stabilization Report

This is a proposal to stabilize the backtrace feature in libstd. It would make these additional APIs available on stable:

pub mod backtrace {
    pub struct Backtrace {
    }

    enum BacktraceStatus {
        Unsupported,
        Disabled,
        Captured,
    }

    impl Backtrace {
        pub fn capture() -> Backtrace { }

        pub fn force_capture() -> Backtrace { }

        pub fn disabled() -> Backtrace { }

        pub fn status(&self) -> BacktraceState { }
    }

    impl Display for Backtrace { }
    impl Debug for Backtrace { }
}

pub mod error {
    pub trait Error {
        fn backtrace(&self) -> Option<&Backtrace> {
            None
        }
    }
}

The behavior of the backtrace type, especially as it connects to certain environment variables, is better documented in the module documentation: https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/backtrace/index.html

The internal details of how backtraces are captured and represented are platform specific and unspecified. A platform may not support backtraces at all. Libstd's backtrace type will do its best to report a backtrace to the caller of Backtrace::capture and Backtrace::force_capture.

Background and Motivation

This API was proposed as part of RFC 2504, which was merged in August 2018. The API was based on experience with the failure crate, released November 2017, and motivated by a longstanding user request for a standardized way to access backtraces, especially in connection with errors that have been raised. This API was implemented actually in September 2019.

In late 2019, many users began migrating from the failure crate to crates based on std::error::Error, because most of the API changes proposed in RFC 2504 had been stabilized, and new crates similar to failure but based on std Error had been implemented, most notably thiserror and anyhow by dtolnay. In early 2020, the failure crate was deprecated, and users were recommended to use anyhow and thiserror instead.

However, on stable, the user experience of anyhow and thiserror is not equivalent to the user experience of failure, because the backtrace component of RFC 2504 has not been stabilized. Some users have been left in the frustrating and confusing experience of watching the ecosystem move around them to a solution that does not have feature parity for them, because they were depending on the backtrace feature of failure. They are forced to either migrate from stable to nightly or manage compatibility issues with the rest of the ecosystem while staying on failure.

Even the anyhow crate only has meaningful backtraces with the backtrace feature of the crate turned on, which in turn depends on the backtrace feature of std.

Unresolved questions from RFC

One unresolved question was left over from the RFC regarding the API of capture: some proposed that rather than have backtraces which return a non-Captured status, the capture API return an Option. This was discussed at length on the RFC, and the RFC was ultimately merged with an unresolved question to confirm that the current design worked well. There has since been no discussion of that aspect of the RFC.

Two aspects complicate the idea of having a backtrace's non-pressence indicated with an option:

  • A backtrace can be absent for two reasons: the backtrace is disabled or the platform does not support backtraces. An Option could not represent that, requiring a new enum type, or a result and a new error type.
  • Use cases like Error::backtrace introduce a third reason a backtrace wouldn't be present: the concrete implementation did not try to capture a backtrace.

Combined we would be looking at an API like fn backtrace(&self) -> Option<&Result<Backtrace, BacktraceError>>, which becomes very unwieldy. For users who need to interrogate a backtrace's materiality, the BacktraceStatus provides a means of determining if the backtrace they've captured is not meaningful and why.

Issues raised during implementation period

Fmt representation #65280

Changes were made to the representation of the backtrace type, removing the header from the display representation & providing a debug implementation which is consistent with other Debug implementations.

However, #65280 also proposes providing a means of limiting the backtrace using something like the precision syntax. This has not been implemented. I propose that this is a desirable feature, but it is strictly add-on and it should not be a blocker on stabilizing backtrace.

Backtrace and Error in core

The main issue raised during implementation was the relationship of Error::backtrace and Error not being in core. The Error trait is already not in core for another reason: an inherent method on dyn Error requires the Box type, which is not in core, but stabilizing Error::backtrace would add a second dependence on a non-core type.

It is desirable for the Error trait to be available from core, and therefore users have expressed concern about adding a new dependency on a non-core type. However, this stabilization would not present any new challenge that could not be resolved as easily as the existing challenges:

  1. In order to add Error to core, we would need some "hook" that makes the non-core methods on Error not available in core, without breaking coherence. Such a "hook" could also be imagined for making the backtrace method not available in core.
  2. Alternatively (and probably better) we could make the backtrace type available in core, but its backtrace functionality disabled without std, with some hook to provide the platform-specific functionality that std fulfills, similar to global allocators, panic handlers, etc.
  3. Finally, we could do the proper thing and merge std and core into one library, instead of piling up an increasing tower of hacks to work aroud the misdesigned core/std split.

Because the existing issue with Error would already require a language-level change to allow std to add an inherent method to dyn Error, which multiple team members (me included) have expressed concern about doing, this does not seem to me to present a substantial increase in the amount of work needed to make Error available in core.

RFC 2895 and "generic member access"

Finally, there is the idea that RFC 2895 could supercede the Error::backtrace method. RFC 2895 provides an API for essentially a specialized dynamically dispatched "generic member" that errors could have, which is core-compatible. Such an API could then be used to provide the backtrace, or any other dynamically dispatched type, that an error could contain.

However, this RFC is not merged or in FCP, and is still in the early phases of design. We have already soft-regressed users, who have been relying on an existing API that has been in design for several years. Blocking the resolution of those users' problems on an RFC in early design stages would not be prudent.

The basic motivation of RFC 2895 is that it allows errors to provide many different kinds of contexts, not just a backtrace, and in a way which is open ended and extensible. This may be a desirable property for the std error trait, and RFC 2895 may eventually be merged, stabilized, etc. However, I would contend that even in such a case, preferential treatment for backtraces is still desirable. Backtraces are a standard feature provided not only in Rust but in many language ecosystems, which users have come to expect. Providing a first-class method for getting the backtrace, called backtrace, even if it delegates to a more generic "request for context" method in the long term, makes sense for the optimal user experience.

Future work

Other than the future work on the error trait discussed above, there is future work to be done on the backtrace type. In particular, the backtrace type currently provides no method of analysis other than debug and display printing the backtrace. It would be beneficial to provide a platform agnostic, standard API for iterating over the frames of the backtrace and the members of the frames in the long term. Such an API would justify a separate RFC.

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Thanks for the write-up! The one thing I would add is trait impls to the list of stabilized APIs. impl Display for Backtrace in particular is important since (as far as I can tell) it is the expected way to do anything useful with a Backtrace.

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Amanieu commented Jun 4, 2020

The comments on how the Error trait can be supported in core are still quite vague and I am still unconvinced that stabilizing the backtrace function on the Error trait won't permanently prevent Error from being added to core.

I would like to see an implementation or at least a detailed design of the hooks that would enable backtrace support in libcore before we stabilize this.

@rfcbot concern Error in core

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withoutboats commented Jun 4, 2020

I am still unconvinced that stabilizing the backtrace function on the Error trait won't permanently prevent Error from being added to core.

Can you provide a positive statement of why the backtrace functionality would provide some unique difficulty? Asking others to prove a negative feels unfair.

I'm certainly not going to design hooks for this, though I think they would be useful even beyond getting this stabilized (presumably embedded devs do actually want backtraces and can sometimes have them). It's a big project it's not on anyone's roadmap. Meanwhile, real users are currently regressed.

The inherent impl issue is a much bigger blocker for moving Error to core. Despite the claim that we could "hack coherence" around it being accepted as a handwave solution, @sfackler has expressed concern about actually doing this and I agree. I certainly am not comfortable ending up in a situation where std defines inherent impls for core types, but they are separate crates, in any permanent capacity. I would be comfortable with that maybe only if it were strongly motivated by user need and coupled with an ongoing plan to merge core and std and remove the coherence hacks.

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yaahc commented Jun 4, 2020

I would like to see an implementation or at least a detailed design of the hooks that would enable backtrace support in libcore before we stabilize this.

I'm would be happy to do a proof of concept to show how this would potentially work to verify that we could infact move Error to core to prove that it works. Am I correct though in assuming that this solution would still require coherence hacks for downcast? I want to make sure that @sfackler, @withoutboats, and anyone else who has expressed concern at such hacks is okay with the plan if we're planning on leaning on options 1 or 2.

Assuming we can show with reasonable confidence that we'd be able to move Error to core with fn backtrace I'm 100% onboard with this, I do agree that Backtrace will by far be the most used form of context for error reports captured by source errors, so it definitely makes sense to optimize for this.

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Amanieu commented Jun 4, 2020

My main concern that that this would require the Backtrace type to be in core, however this isn't possible since core is not allowed to depend on any other crate (in the case the backtrace crate).

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bstrie commented Jan 25, 2021

To be clear, is the new proposal to fully stabilize std:::backtrace::Backtrace as it currently exists (implying that no changes need to be made to make it compatible with inclusion in core), while not yet stabilizing std::error::Error::backtrace?

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yaahc commented Jan 25, 2021

To be clear, is the new proposal to fully stabilize std:::backtrace::Backtrace as it currently exists (implying that no changes need to be made to make it compatible with inclusion in core), while not yet stabilizing std::error::Error::backtrace?

Yes, because the only reason we currently have for moving Backtrace into core would be if it were added to the API of the Error trait. If we stabilize backtrace alone and find later reasons we cannot move it to core we will likely just revert the fn backtrace method on the error trait and rely on the Generic member access RFC for the same functionality.

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bjorn3 commented Jan 25, 2021

Could all methods to construct a backtrace be moved to an extension trait? That would make moving Backtrace to libcore much easier I think, but can't be done in a backwards compatible way later on.

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tmandry commented Jan 26, 2021

One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is using the Backtrace API in signal handlers. It'd be extremely useful to have it there, especially for SIGSEGV and SIGABRT when you are doing a bunch of FFI with a memory-unsafe language. For example, #79153 is about handling this in the compiler.

Since signal handlers can't allocate, I think this boils down to having a core API.

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That would also require the unwinder itself to be async signal safe, which this libunwind is, but I don't think that's specified to be the case for the C++ ABI unwinder that backtrace uses right now.

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KodrAus commented Jan 27, 2021

We discussed this at the recent Libs meeting and came to the conclusion that stabilizing Backtrace without Error::backtrace wouldn't be a useful direction, given that Backtrace is designed around being carried alongside Errors. So for now we can consider the stabilization blocked pending figuring out the last bits of what a pluggable (whether stably or not) backtrace would look like.

We can move design discussion over to #77384

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This replaces the backtrace crate and removes quite a few recursive
dependencies. There was a proposal to stabilize backtrace, but it was
decided that it is better to wait until the interface with the Error
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jyn514 commented Jul 7, 2021

We discussed this at the recent Libs meeting and came to the conclusion that stabilizing Backtrace without Error::backtrace wouldn't be a useful direction, given that Backtrace is designed around being carried alongside Errors. So for now we can consider the stabilization blocked pending figuring out the last bits of what a pluggable (whether stably or not) backtrace would look like.

I have a use case for Backtrace without Error: I want to print the stack in a panic handler.

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yaahc commented Jul 7, 2021

We discussed this at the recent Libs meeting and came to the conclusion that stabilizing Backtrace without Error::backtrace wouldn't be a useful direction, given that Backtrace is designed around being carried alongside Errors. So for now we can consider the stabilization blocked pending figuring out the last bits of what a pluggable (whether stably or not) backtrace would look like.

I have a use case for Backtrace without Error: I want to print the stack in a panic handler.

I've nominated this for discussion but my first instinct is to suggest using backtrace-rs in this case. Is there a reason you need to use the std::backtrace::Backtrace type specifically?

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jyn514 commented Jul 7, 2021

I guess backtrace would work. It would be nice to avoid the extra dependency.

Is the API for Backtrace still in flux? Or is it unstable only because Error is unstable?

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yaahc commented Jul 8, 2021

I guess backtrace would work. It would be nice to avoid the extra dependency.

Is the API for Backtrace still in flux? Or is it unstable only because Error is unstable?

its still theoretically in flux, in case we decide that the hook based option for exposing the interface from core is not viable we could theoretically switch to a Backtrace trait object for the return type in the Error trait function, though at this point that seems unlikely.

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We discussed this in today's @rust-lang/libs-api meeting. We felt that we should defer this to allow for a broader recommendation (encompassing this and other things) from the error-handling group, and we felt that there's currently a viable solution available (the backtrace crate). Given that, we don't want to stabilize this at this time.

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Stabilize backtrace

This PR stabilizes the std::backtrace module. As of rust-lang#99431, the std::Error::backtrace item has been removed, and so the rest of the backtrace feature is set to be stabilized.

Previous discussion can be found in rust-lang#72981, rust-lang#3156.

Stabilized API summary:
```rust
pub mod std {
    pub mod backtrace {
        pub struct Backtrace { }
        pub enum BacktraceStatus {
            Unsupported,
            Disabled,
            Captured,
        }
        impl fmt::Debug for Backtrace {}
        impl Backtrace {
            pub fn capture() -> Backtrace;
            pub fn force_capture() -> Backtrace;
            pub const fn disabled() -> Backtrace;
            pub fn status(&self) -> BacktraceStatus;
        }
        impl fmt::Display for Backtrace {}
    }
}
```

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I believe now that #99573 is merged, this can be closed?

@yaahc yaahc closed this Aug 10, 2022
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