show message count next to contact name #1198
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+1 |
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Funny, everthing is already there. With six lines of code it looks realy nice. like the stock app only counts > 1 are shown shall i pull request this? |
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Instead of the total count of messages, wouldn't we rather want to see the count of unread messages (#991)? |
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Just for the sake of completeness:
If 1) is easily to do, then please go for it. But I wouldn't miss the unread counter THAT much ;) |
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I don't think an unread counter is all that useful. If I know that there's at least one unread message, do I gain anything from knowing it's 5 versus 10? They might have been sent out over 6 hours or spread out over 6 minutes, but in any situation I'm going to have to go in and read the unread message(s). The UI simplicity of having a single counter probably beats having information that is largely not that useful. |
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"I don't think an unread counter is all that useful. " I don't know. My social circle is pretty good about not spamming me with messages, so if I haven't looked at my phone in a while (say I'm in a movie theater watching a movie) and now I see 5 unread from one of them, chances are something non-trivial is up and they're trying to get my attention. If they were just trying to ping me, there will typically only be one (maybe two) unread from them (usually "hey" and then "you there?"). So for me, there is /some/ utility in knowing the unread count. I like the unread/total, fwiw. But if it's not a low hanging fruit, I wouldn't pursue it right now. My $0.02 |
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I missed the message count too. Not even that everything is prepared to show the count as @McLoo states, but it had been there and was removed with commit 28c1c50. Maybe @mcginty can explain why it was removed. |
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I still don't think I totally understand the point of having a count on the conversation list for the total number of messages sent. Unread count makes sense to me, however. Somebody care to explain what they use it for? I saw it as excessive information clutter and got rid of it. |
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You are totally correct. This is not necessary at all. On March 24, 2014 1:17:20 PM GMT-11:00, Jake McGinty notifications@github.com wrote:
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I'm with @mcginty. Unread count makes sense, but what the hell do I need a total message count for? |
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For me the counter makes total sense cause I get an overview how many SMS I have sent. I mean it would be nice to have an overall view so I can check as well how many SMS per month in total. For a chat I agree that's senseless. But since I cannot check what was sent via SMS or chat..... |
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@leomayer you'd only get the total count per month if you remember how many messages you sent last month in every thread, of if you deleted all your messages on the last day of the month. |
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long reply short:
full reply text: Recently i used the counter to verify the correct import into TS ;-) Also how else would i get the information that i had 1801 messages with my mother in the last two years... (omg) I admit that it is a personal favor having this information as well as a unread counter - which is really useful for group chats (ever opened WhatsA** and had a group chat with 30+ messages? seems to be more important than a chat with one message). What about having both features optional - total count turned off by default? As there is enough space underneath the date there also would be a good place for either of those counters. thanks a lot for all of your comments! |
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may i also refer to #1055 (mark drafts in conversation list) |
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For me the total messages counter is indeed important. I'm with @McLoo, but like to add an explanation. I manually delete old messages from time to time (don't need to protect data which is no longer stored). In a spare minute (e.g. waiting for the bus) I choose one or two threads which I check for messages that can be deleted. Obviously I want to select threads with many messages and not those containing the single message I want to keep. Every SMS app I have used shows the count of total messages per thread, including the Android stock one. |
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I don't see a point in having the total message count... Its just too much information. Whatsapp and facebook messenger doesn't have them. If you want to delete old messages, use the option where you can limit messages per thread... If you need the number to distinguish between work and private phone numbers, this should be written, not the amount of messages (which you dont care for, because you just want to see which phone number it is...) |
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Just my 2cents: Since I see the discussion here, I agree with @McLoo to have an option. So, if somebody could implement with an option then I would really like to see it (read/unread/SMS/chat/whatever-counter) On the other hand I feel uncomfortable for this issue, cause if the next programmer thinx the same way as @mcginty and just throw out the code due to personal reasons the discussion might be endless and whatever will be implemented has the high potential risk of useless/senseless. Cause I don't think all options will satisfy all developers. There will be always different ideas/opinion. And if kick-out is THAT easy.... |
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In my last comment I tried to explain that the a total messages counter is helpful for manual deletion. This obviously can not be replaced by automatic deletion. Which algorithm could ever guess that I want to keep the first SMS I received by my girlfriend but not the thousand messages since then saying "I'm a little late"? |
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We have to keep in mind to keep TS simple and usable. To much information is just clutter. |
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It would come in handy for anyone who has a storage limit set. This way you can be aware of reaching that limit before messages start being erased. |
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good point @sidnny |
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Since there seems to be a wide variety of preferences for different people, why not have options which cover all the bases? Something like (in settings menu under "Appearance" sub-heading): Example:
And regarding the marking of drafts: Firstnm Lastnm has message count of 101, 2 unread, one draft written before 2 messages recieved
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Like @agrajaghh there's a cost to clutter. It confuses and distracts. This is also the reason why we want to avoid extra settings. I'd be more inclined to move these counts inside a conversation info page or something like that than include it in the conversation list. |
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+1 to @ykarm for clearly displaying the options and to this thread - I am in favor of the Show total + Show unread + Show drafts option, because it really isn't that much more clutter and I often want to know how many messages I have in given conversations. I'm also very okay with needing to enable this in Settings for it do display if the consensus is that by default it should be cleaner. I like this information because if my phone is filling up (or if I have some free time and want to clean), I would like to be able to run through my longer threads and choose the messages to delete (also, having a message locking ability would make this process faster). The default Android Messaging app has the thread count, and I have really appreciated having this info! |
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Signal iOS and Signal Desktop show unread counts in the conversation list. |
1) Brighten background color 2) Add unread indicator in conversation list 3) Eliminate some conversation list overdraw
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I don't think we're going to add a total count, but unread count is now in 4.13.0 |
The stock rom shows the number of messages per thread (user/group).
This is a nice feature and should easily be integrated as the message count is passed to a variable in ConversationListItem.java already.
here my simple example:
not the nice light gray smaller number like the stock sms app...
Another wessenger shows the number of unread messages instead which also is a fine feature
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