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* Minutes for CG meeting 2024-04-10 * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> * Update meetings/2024-04-10.md Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> --------- Co-authored-by: Hadrian Zbarcea <hadrian@inrupt.com> Co-authored-by: Ted Thibodeau Jr <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
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| # W3C Solid Community Group: Weekly | ||
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| * Date: 2024-04-10T14:00:00Z | ||
| * Call: https://meet.jit.si/solid-cg | ||
| * Chat: https://matrix.to/#/#solid_specification:gitter.im | ||
| * Repository: https://github.com/solid/specification | ||
| * Status: Published | ||
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| ## Present | ||
| * Hadrian Zbarcea | ||
| * Rahul Gupta | ||
| * Maxime Lecoq-Gaillard | ||
| * [elf Pavlik](https://elf-pavlik.hackers4peace.net) | ||
| * [Ted Thibodeau](https://github.com/TallTed/) (he/him) ([OpenLink Software](https://www.openlinksw.com/)) | ||
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| ## Announcements | ||
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| ### Meeting Guidelines | ||
| * [W3C Solid Community Group Calendar](https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/solid/calendar). | ||
| * [W3C Solid Community Group Meeting Guidelines](https://github.com/w3c-cg/solid/blob/main/meetings/README.md). | ||
| * No audio or video recording, or automated transcripts without consent. Meetings are transcribed and made public. If consent is withheld by anyone, recording/retention must not occur. | ||
| * Join queue to talk. | ||
| * Topics can be proposed at the bottom of the agenda to be discussed as time allows. Make it known if a topic is urgent or cannot be postponed. | ||
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| ### Participation and Code of Conduct | ||
| * [Join the W3C Solid Community Group](https://www.w3.org/community/solid/join), [W3C Account Request](http://www.w3.org/accounts/request), [W3C Community Contributor License Agreement](https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/). | ||
| * [Solid Code of Conduct](https://github.com/solid/process/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md), [Positive Work Environment at W3C: Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct](https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/) | ||
| * Operating principle for effective participation is to allow access across disabilities, across country borders, and across time. Feedback on tooling and meeting timing is welcome. | ||
| * If this is your first time, welcome! please introduce yourself. | ||
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| ### Scribes | ||
| * Hadrian Zbarcea | ||
| * elf Pavlik | ||
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| ### Introductions | ||
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| * [name] | ||
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| ## Topics | ||
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| ### Co-chairs Rotation Schedule | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/specification/discussions/618 | ||
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| * hz: Just a reminder. | ||
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| ### Special Topic Meetings | ||
| URL: https://github.com/orgs/solid/projects/16/views/1 | ||
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| ### WG Charter Update | ||
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| * hz: none today | ||
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| ### WIP Implementation Feedback | ||
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| ### Discussion #555 | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/635 | ||
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| * HZ: Virginia marked #555 as `archived`, I think this issue can be closed | ||
| * HZ: no objections, will close | ||
| * RG: what about 635? let's ask Ted what he needs done | ||
| * HZ: let's wait for Ted | ||
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| ### WG Charter | ||
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| #### Tantek's feedback re 2 / 3 chairs | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/solid-wg-charter/issues/66 | ||
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| * VB: PAC, any status update on this? | ||
| * HZ: I don't think is up to them (AB?) to decide how the W3C team selects it's chairs | ||
| * HZ: I don't think it's up to the CG; we don't need to deal with it | ||
| * RG: PAC is not here | ||
| * eP: let's better wait for PAC | ||
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| #### Add Explainer | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/solid-wg-charter/issues/52 | ||
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| * VB: Can this issue be closed given reference to *an explainer* in https://github.com/solid/solid-wg-charter/blob/004ba63e1b76715a4c72b5d6147c9eca6a9c7ee5/charter/index.html ? | ||
| * RG: I asked Tim to also do explainer for client-to-client specs. | ||
| * RG: I shared the current explainer with various communities and the client-to-client part was hard to explain. | ||
| * HZ: since it is out of scope for the WG, should we just mention that eventually this will be requried? | ||
| * HZ: I can reach out to the Solid team asking for the status. | ||
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| #### Clarifying "Achieve Them" in Deliverables Section | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/solid-wg-charter/issues/45 | ||
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| * VB: If no proposal to improve, can we close this issue or do you prefer to wait for a PR? | ||
| * eP: More confortable if PAC handles this and everything WG charter related. He can ask us for help whenever needed. | ||
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| #### Does the value come from the protocol or the applications? | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/solid-wg-charter/pull/71 | ||
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| * eP: More practical to leave it to PAC | ||
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| ### New Work Item C2C: Project Management | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/641 | ||
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| * eP: see also https://github.com/solid/specification/discussions/554 | ||
| * HZ: I was looking at contacts and it doesn't look very active. I'm afraid that we are starting work items which are going nowhere. | ||
| * RG: I think the question is, is there someone to work with Pavlik to work on it? | ||
| * MLG: I see two levels of interop. The client-to-client ??? . The other one is generic interop, where two apps from two different domains can interop. | ||
| * eP: There is also overlap between the domains, we don't have hard boundries in real life and there is always interweaving. | ||
| * HZ: is it Solid CG or contrib? I think CG is too general. | ||
| * RG: what do you see the scope of CG? It seems protocol related work. | ||
| * TT: it sounds like you ask for a task force within CG. | ||
| * eP: if we already have SAI and type indexes, I agree with having a new repo for that. I will create a PR to the shapes repo; we don't need a full spec. This will allow us to validate our assumptions. I will build on top of SAI. | ||
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| ACTION: eP to make PR to https://github.com/solid/shapes | ||
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| ### Partial contact information sharing | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/contacts/issues/5 | ||
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| * eP: [ranting about access control and resource level assumption] | ||
| * RG: One can mint a new URL. I'm skeptical about sub-resource access control. Even TrinPod assigns a URI to each triple. | ||
| * eP: [ranting more about lack of process to evaluate proposals agains use cases] | ||
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| ACTION: HZ to add STM for how we work with use cases & requirements, and evaluate proposals based on that | ||
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| ### Proposal for integrating DIDs into Solid | ||
| URL: https://github.com/solid/specification/issues/629 | ||
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