[Bug 🐞]: Centrifuges/Inflateable parts in general cause Kraken attacks. #183
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Brief description of your issue (aka the problem)Centrifuges from SSPX (and many inflateable parts not just in SSPX, really) cause explosions when craft is constructed. Operating systemWindows 10/11 (upgraded, still having issue) KSP version1.12.5 Version of addon4.0.99.33-prerelease Steps to reproduce the behavior or issueMake a vessel, I managed to reproduce with just a centrifuge, some command modules, and launch clamps. Expected behaviorFor the craft to build radially from the docking port Actual behaviorWell, If you turn on unbreakable joints it turns into a super merry-go-round where the centrifuge swings its self wildly in a circle around the vehicle. EnvironmentFull mods list from CKAN. Worth mentioning that the version of Simple Construction here is arbitrary.
I overwrote it with your curseforge version.
(You can copy and paste this into a CKAN file if you wish and it should work):
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}Log filesKSP.log ScreenshotsFrom start to finish, here is what happens: https://imgur.com/a/Itg2fTl Additional contextHappens across all versions of Launchpad.dll (EPL and SCON versions). How did you download and install this?CurseForge (download and manual installation) |
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Replies: 10 comments 7 replies
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Added MM configcache to logs section |
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@StormCircuit your log is showing 214 EXC that may or may not be related to this issue. Query: does this happen in space where there is no gravity? (If I find the time I will test as well) EXC(eption)examples of EXC: the lines leading up to the log entry often pin-point the causation: [LOG 16:04:46.094] Create button for module Vessel Info |
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NOTE: just because a certain mod creates a EXCeption log entry doesn't make it the culprit - hence why I say 'symptom or cause' CommunityFixes,Scatterer, kOS, Parallax, B9PartSwitch, and Janitor's Closet seem to either be the symptom or cause of the 214 EXC in the log. |
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[ERR (or)372 errors reported in KSP.log important NOTE:possible multiple installations of Scatterer
while there are many 'ignorable' errors logged:
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1724272738 you can watch the entire test on that link (will also be on YouTube) No issues found, seemingly worked flawlessly. |
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This is bizarre. I suppose it must be a mod interaction then? Thanks for the follow up and sorry for the late reply. |
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plenty of stuff in the Log's that might be applicable. Good Luck! @StormCircuit |
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I am trying to perform more tests, how did you get your build speed so fast? I tried changing productivity factor in the sciencelab.cfg but it did not help. |
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Hmm it appears the changes did not take hold the first launch but did the second launch of the game. Guess it just needed to rebuild the MM cache or something? I don't fully understand MM in the first place so I am not sure. |
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Build Speed
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So I have figured out the root issue: KSP Community Fixes triggers it. I can only assume from the EXC errors above it is somehow screwing up the drag model on the parts when they are spawned with EPL as when spawned from the VAB/SPH no such issue occurs. Furthermore this issue will NOT occur if you make just one centrifuge. You HAVE to build TWO CENTRIFUGES STACKED for the bug to occur. I was able to build a single one just fine, revert, build two stacked, explosion. Additionally, I narrowed it down to just having two centrifuges stacked. This bug affects the following centrifuges only, the other ones in SSPX are fine: Mercury, Pilgrim, and Cronus This is all on a install of the game with just KSP CF, B9 PS, SCON, and MM. Nothing else. Is this an issue for here or for KSP CF? Not sure. |
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Worth mentioning that there is a glaring EXC error from KSP CF regarding drag cubes. This points toward KSP CF. |
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I ended up opening an issue over there. Also still having issues with productivity? Can I change how fast kerbals build in the config files with productivity? |
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@StormCircuit and even they KSP CF might not be the culprit - rather another messenger. |
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Productivityhttps://zer0kerbal.github.io/NotSoSimpleConstruction/FAKQ/stakes.html#220-productivity |
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^^^ is a WIP conversion/update of @taniwha's XPL pdf manual into MarkDown. add more workshops (like the HitchHiker's) with more higher starred kerbals (FTL/FTF - Field Training Lab/Facility) or you can do a personal patch something like this |
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1724272738
you can watch the entire test on that link (will also be on YouTube)
No issues found, seemingly worked flawlessly.