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Minutes 07 Jul 2023

Paul Albertella edited this page Aug 10, 2023 · 1 revision

Host: Paul Albertella

Participants: Pete Brink, Leonard Hubner, Igor Stoppa, Raffaele Giannessi, Kate Stewart

Agenda: Workshop review & Safety Analysis of Telltale use case

  • Paul talked about ELISA workshop and discussion of safety analysis approach Presentation
    • In particular, using the approach as a basis for collaboration with other WGs e.g. Learning from experience using STPA in other groups (Medical - OpenAPS, Safety Arch - inside the kernel)
  • Medical - used STPA to drill down to find how Linux was being used to support the safety-relevant parts of the system
  • Safety Arch - finding it hard because focus at a lower level meant very complex picture

Pete: Did STPA on OpenAPS find any flaws?

  • Yes - had to backtrack a few times to get the full picture
  • Used to direct analysis of kernel interactions
  • Recorded in spreadsheets initially - converting to JSON

Change management / publication review

  • Pete: Need to establish a set of criteria that we apply to review
  • Quality and/or safety
  • Paul: Planning to start with a lightweight peer review for submissions to GitHub repos, then a more formal review for completed documents
  • Barriers to contribution - how to use GitHub, permissions
  • Kate: Don’t want this to block progress
    • e.g. If we require all review comments to be addressed, could be open to issues if an uninformed reviewer’s comments blocked merge

Use of outputs of STPA / Safety Analysis approach

  • Can help to inform design
  • Can be used to derive safety requirements for existing systems
  • Could use Linux-based systems in the role of ‘prototype’ to analyse and derive requirements, which would be input to concrete system design
  • Paul: I am currently working on something similar - a Linux-based OS as SEooC

Where do we get the requirements that are the foundation of the analysis?

  • Can we do this for the Automotive WG use case?

Gab is interested in picking this up from the Safety Arch WG perspective as well.

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