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MSC3757: Restricting who can overwrite a state event #3757

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@andybalaam andybalaam commented Mar 25, 2022

@andybalaam andybalaam changed the title Restricting who can overwrite a state event MSC3757: Restricting who can overwrite a state event Mar 25, 2022
@turt2live turt2live added requires-room-version An idea which will require a bump in room version proposal-in-review proposal A matrix spec change proposal s2s Server-to-Server API (federation) client-server Client-Server API unassigned-room-version Remove this label when things get versioned. kind:core MSC which is critical to the protocol's success needs-implementation This MSC does not have a qualifying implementation for the SCT to review. The MSC cannot enter FCP. labels Mar 25, 2022
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One nit, else this looks sound.

andybalaam and others added 5 commits March 31, 2022 11:44
Co-authored-by: Andrew Morgan <1342360+anoadragon453@users.noreply.github.com>
Co-authored-by: Travis Ralston <travisr@matrix.org>
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Highlight that the current restrictions prevent being able to set
multiple state events of the same type with exclusive write access
- Use assertive language
- Limit lines to ~100 characters
- Improve consistency of terms
as it is already discussed in two other sections
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mscbot commented Oct 7, 2024

That concern has already been raised.

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clokep commented Oct 7, 2024

@mscbot resolve Does not work with all MXIDs

@mscbot concern Alternatives insufficient explored.

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mscbot commented Oct 7, 2024

That concern has already been raised.

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@mscbot concern Alternatives insufficient explored.

deba3b82..e16482ab re-examines the alternative of the m.peer_unwritable flag.

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This proposal requires re-review from several SCT members and adjacent folks. The priority is a bit unclear to me, but that is a different problem (see room).

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clokep commented Dec 10, 2024

On the Apache voting scale, I'm at a -1.0 for how the MSC is currently written. A stronger rationale for why this is needed now and strong discounting of a top-level ACL structure would change this to a -0.9 (sorry, I'm just not in favour of string packing here).

This is still the crux of this proposal and I'm in agreement with @turt2live that I'm a -1 for the string packing.

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Maybe it's worth having a new MSC to explore one of the top-level field alternatives:

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clokep commented Dec 10, 2024

Maybe it's worth having a new MSC to explore one of the top-level field alternatives:

* [Event ownership flag](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/andybalaam/owner-state-events/proposals/3757-restricting-who-can-overwrite-a-state-event.md?rgh-link-date=2024-12-10T20%3A16%3A47Z#event-ownership-flag)

* [Owning user ID field](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/blob/andybalaam/owner-state-events/proposals/3757-restricting-who-can-overwrite-a-state-event.md?rgh-link-date=2024-12-10T20%3A16%3A47Z#owning-user-id-field)

Maybe MSC3760 or MSC3779 was supposed to be that? (3760 appears to be very similar to this.)

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Maybe MSC3760 or MSC3779 was supposed to be that? (3760 appears to be very similar to this.)

Yes, MSC3760 was an alternative without string-packing. MSC3779 is different: it is intended to allow low-power users to create these state events.

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