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Enable combining +crt-static
and relocation-model=pic
on x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
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r? @estebank (rust-highfive has picked a reviewer for you, use r? to override) |
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The build failure appears to be the fall-back logic from I don't know what linker is being used in that build, if it's The test as written assumes that the linker supports Is there a possibility to either upgrade the linker in the tests? Or to provide a hint to the test scripts so they can expect the fall-back behaviour if appropriate? |
Triage: |
I'm not sure who's the appropriate people for this change, I was trusting Liz Lemon that @estebank was a good choice, and I don't know if there's anyone else who would also be a sensible choice. |
@bossmc Triage: I'd suggest you reach the t-compiler people on Zulip to move this forward. In the mean time, i'll convert this pr to draft to remove this from triage cycle. |
Apologies for the unresponsiveness, I'd made a point of coming back to it and forgot. The code changes look reasonable, but I am not the right person to help with the test failure. Could someone in @rust-lang/compiler take a look? |
r? @nagisa |
Rust currently supports fairly ancient GCC and clang both for building rustc itself as well as a toolchain. Bumping to fairly recent versions of gcc/clang would likely be a MCP-level material if not an entire RFC. cc @rust-lang/release for opinions though. |
(in practice we've been okay with conditional support for certain toolchain features in the past, I don't see why we wouldn't do that here as well, after adding some support to compiletest to check if the linker supports the necessary features) |
Just to clarify - this If we want CI to build with a minimal linker version then the test becomes a regression test rather than a feature test (testing that if the compiler is asked for static pie but the linker doesn't support it then it builds a static (non-pie) binary instead). It might also be useful to have a newer linker in CI (as well?) to test the function when the linker does support it? At the very least we'd need to not break (your follow-up message has overlapped me writing this) I agree that this would be best with conditional support in |
Adjusting CI to somehow allow for multiple linker versions might be an option too, but I don't know enough about our CI set up to tell for sure. @Mark-Simulacrum may have a better idea? |
CI for x86_64 tests with a Ubuntu 20.04 base image today (https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/src/ci/docker/host-x86_64/x86_64-gnu/Dockerfile). I believe many other platforms do the same or similar; indeed, I'm not actually confident we run tests on the more ancient builders we use for dist jobs. It sounds like we need a more modern gcc/clang for the test suite to pass; I think likely it makes sense to do this:
I can't really comment on the change itself, so not sure if it makes sense, but in terms of verifying it's support this seems like the reasonable approach. The second step there can plausibly be skipped, depending on how the code is laid out -- @nagisa or whoever reviews this can decide that :) Generally though progressively enhancing seems good; ideally we'd provide some signal to the user that they can get this combination working if they get a more modern linker. Not sure we have any nice way of doing that though, so may not be worth it -- eventually it'll just work for folks. |
☔ The latest upstream changes (presumably #89652) made this pull request unmergeable. Please resolve the merge conflicts. |
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@Mark-Simulacrum thanks for those notes, just coming back to this now I've got a moment. I've rebased the change and now the CI is passing - presumably because the CI test image has been updated and now has a new-enough I've looked into adding either a |
Hm. I think probably the easiest thing for now is to have a run-make test, not integrated into compiletest, that runs some command to get the linker version -- I'm not too familiar with how to get this information out of gcc/clang. We should be able to set the linker for rustc though with The important thing will be to make sure that:
But I don't think we need to ensure it runs on both gcc/clang or some such, we can just keep it to CI-only for the time being. Our CI doesn't currently have anyway to verify that a test actually ran at least once across all our builders, but we don't need to try and tackle that in this PR. |
(As a note to myself, but possibly interesting to others) You can get the versions of
So instead, one can use the "magic
In fact, for this test we just need to check the major versions (8 for |
@Mark-Simulacrum I've added a first pass at what we've been discussing (I'm pretty sure I can commonize the |
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https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/runs/4289582821?check_suite_focus=true is a build failing due to a deliberately added I'll revert that change now so this MR is mergeable again. |
Seems reasonable to me, could you please squash the commit history to remove the testing commits? r=me after. |
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@nagisa - done, thanks! |
The job Click to see the possible cause of the failure (guessed by this bot)
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triage: looks like this is ready for review @rustbot label: -S-waiting-on-author +S-waiting-on-review |
@bors r+ |
📌 Commit 6a88311 has been approved by |
…=nagisa Enable combining `+crt-static` and `relocation-model=pic` on `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu` Modern `gcc` versions support `-static-pie`, and `rustc` will already fall-back to `-static` if the local `gcc` is too old (and hence this change is optimistic rather than absolute). This brings the `-musl` and `-gnu` targets to feature compatibility (albeit with different default settings). Of note a `-static` or `-static-pie` binary based on glibc that uses NSS-backed functions (`gethostbyname` or `getpwuid` etc.) need to have access to the `libnss_X.so.2` libraries and any of their dynamic dependencies. I wasn't sure about the `# only`/`# ignore` changes (I've not got a `gnux32` toolchain to test with hence not also enabling `-static-pie` there).
…=nagisa Enable combining `+crt-static` and `relocation-model=pic` on `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu` Modern `gcc` versions support `-static-pie`, and `rustc` will already fall-back to `-static` if the local `gcc` is too old (and hence this change is optimistic rather than absolute). This brings the `-musl` and `-gnu` targets to feature compatibility (albeit with different default settings). Of note a `-static` or `-static-pie` binary based on glibc that uses NSS-backed functions (`gethostbyname` or `getpwuid` etc.) need to have access to the `libnss_X.so.2` libraries and any of their dynamic dependencies. I wasn't sure about the `# only`/`# ignore` changes (I've not got a `gnux32` toolchain to test with hence not also enabling `-static-pie` there).
…askrgr Rollup of 7 pull requests Successful merges: - rust-lang#86374 (Enable combining `+crt-static` and `relocation-model=pic` on `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu`) - rust-lang#91828 (Implement `RawWaker` and `Waker` getters for underlying pointers) - rust-lang#92021 (Eliminate duplicate codes of is_single_fp_element) - rust-lang#92584 (add rustc lint, warning when iterating over hashmaps 2) - rust-lang#93267 (implement a lint for suspicious auto trait impls) - rust-lang#93290 (remove `TyS::same_type`) - rust-lang#93436 (Update compiler_builtins to fix duplicate symbols in `armv7-linux-androideabi` rlib) Failed merges: r? `@ghost` `@rustbot` modify labels: rollup
Pkgsrc changes: * Bump available bootstraps to 1.59.0. * Delete one patch which no longer applies, adjust another. Upstream changes: Version 1.60.0 (2022-04-07) ========================== Language -------- - [Stabilize `#[cfg(panic = "...")]` for either `"unwind"` or `"abort"`.] [93658] - [Stabilize `#[cfg(target_has_atomic = "...")]` for each integer size and `"ptr"`.][93824] Compiler -------- - [Enable combining `+crt-static` and `relocation-model=pic` on `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu`][86374] - [Fixes wrong `unreachable_pub` lints on nested and glob public reexport][87487] - [Stabilize `-Z instrument-coverage` as `-C instrument-coverage`][90132] - [Stabilize `-Z print-link-args` as `--print link-args`][91606] - [Add new Tier 3 target `mips64-openwrt-linux-musl`\*][92300] - [Add new Tier 3 target `armv7-unknown-linux-uclibceabi` (softfloat)\*][92383] - [Fix invalid removal of newlines from doc comments][92357] - [Add kernel target for RustyHermit][92670] - [Deny mixing bin crate type with lib crate types][92933] - [Make rustc use `RUST_BACKTRACE=full` by default][93566] - [Upgrade to LLVM 14][93577] \* Refer to Rust's [platform support page][platform-support-doc] for more information on Rust's tiered platform support. Libraries --------- - [Guarantee call order for `sort_by_cached_key`][89621] - [Improve `Duration::try_from_secs_f32`/`f64` accuracy by directly processing exponent and mantissa][90247] - [Make `Instant::{duration_since, elapsed, sub}` saturating][89926] - [Remove non-monotonic clocks workarounds in `Instant::now`][89926] - [Make `BuildHasherDefault`, `iter::Empty` and `future::Pending` covariant][92630] Stabilized APIs --------------- - [`Arc::new_cyclic`][arc_new_cyclic] - [`Rc::new_cyclic`][rc_new_cyclic] - [`slice::EscapeAscii`][slice_escape_ascii] - [`<[u8]>::escape_ascii`][slice_u8_escape_ascii] - [`u8::escape_ascii`][u8_escape_ascii] - [`Vec::spare_capacity_mut`][vec_spare_capacity_mut] - [`MaybeUninit::assume_init_drop`][assume_init_drop] - [`MaybeUninit::assume_init_read`][assume_init_read] - [`i8::abs_diff`][i8_abs_diff] - [`i16::abs_diff`][i16_abs_diff] - [`i32::abs_diff`][i32_abs_diff] - [`i64::abs_diff`][i64_abs_diff] - [`i128::abs_diff`][i128_abs_diff] - [`isize::abs_diff`][isize_abs_diff] - [`u8::abs_diff`][u8_abs_diff] - [`u16::abs_diff`][u16_abs_diff] - [`u32::abs_diff`][u32_abs_diff] - [`u64::abs_diff`][u64_abs_diff] - [`u128::abs_diff`][u128_abs_diff] - [`usize::abs_diff`][usize_abs_diff] - [`Display for io::ErrorKind`][display_error_kind] - [`From<u8> for ExitCode`][from_u8_exit_code] - [`Not for !` (the "never" type)][not_never] - [_Op_`Assign<$t> for Wrapping<$t>`][wrapping_assign_ops] - [`arch::is_aarch64_feature_detected!`][is_aarch64_feature_detected] Cargo ----- - [Port cargo from `toml-rs` to `toml_edit`][cargo/10086] - [Stabilize `-Ztimings` as `--timings`][cargo/10245] - [Stabilize namespaced and weak dependency features.][cargo/10269] - [Accept more `cargo:rustc-link-arg-*` types from build script output.][cargo/10274] - [cargo-new should not add ignore rule on Cargo.lock inside subdirs][cargo/10379] Misc ---- - [Ship docs on Tier 2 platforms by reusing the closest Tier 1 platform docs][92800] - [Drop rustc-docs from complete profile][93742] - [bootstrap: tidy up flag handling for llvm build][93918] Compatibility Notes ------------------- - [Remove compiler-rt linking hack on Android][83822] - [Mitigations for platforms with non-monotonic clocks have been removed from `Instant::now`][89926]. On platforms that don't provide monotonic clocks, an instant is not guaranteed to be greater than an earlier instant anymore. - [`Instant::{duration_since, elapsed, sub}` do not panic anymore on underflow, saturating to `0` instead][89926]. In the real world the panic happened mostly on platforms with buggy monotonic clock implementations rather than catching programming errors like reversing the start and end times. Such programming errors will now results in `0` rather than a panic. - In a future release we're planning to increase the baseline requirements for the Linux kernel to version 3.2, and for glibc to version 2.17. We'd love your feedback in [PR #95026][95026]. Internal Changes ---------------- These changes provide no direct user facing benefits, but represent significant improvements to the internals and overall performance of rustc and related tools. - [Switch all libraries to the 2021 edition][92068] [83822]: rust-lang/rust#83822 [86374]: rust-lang/rust#86374 [87487]: rust-lang/rust#87487 [89621]: rust-lang/rust#89621 [89926]: rust-lang/rust#89926 [90132]: rust-lang/rust#90132 [90247]: rust-lang/rust#90247 [91606]: rust-lang/rust#91606 [92068]: rust-lang/rust#92068 [92300]: rust-lang/rust#92300 [92357]: rust-lang/rust#92357 [92383]: rust-lang/rust#92383 [92630]: rust-lang/rust#92630 [92670]: rust-lang/rust#92670 [92800]: rust-lang/rust#92800 [92933]: rust-lang/rust#92933 [93566]: rust-lang/rust#93566 [93577]: rust-lang/rust#93577 [93658]: rust-lang/rust#93658 [93742]: rust-lang/rust#93742 [93824]: rust-lang/rust#93824 [93918]: rust-lang/rust#93918 [95026]: rust-lang/rust#95026 [cargo/10086]: rust-lang/cargo#10086 [cargo/10245]: rust-lang/cargo#10245 [cargo/10269]: rust-lang/cargo#10269 [cargo/10274]: rust-lang/cargo#10274 [cargo/10379]: rust-lang/cargo#10379 [arc_new_cyclic]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/sync/struct.Arc.html#method.new_cyclic [rc_new_cyclic]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/rc/struct.Rc.html#method.new_cyclic [slice_escape_ascii]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/slice/struct.EscapeAscii.html [slice_u8_escape_ascii]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.slice.html#method.escape_ascii [u8_escape_ascii]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u8.html#method.escape_ascii [vec_spare_capacity_mut]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/vec/struct.Vec.html#method.spare_capacity_mut [assume_init_drop]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/mem/union.MaybeUninit.html#method.assume_init_drop [assume_init_read]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/mem/union.MaybeUninit.html#method.assume_init_read [i8_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i8.html#method.abs_diff [i16_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i16.html#method.abs_diff [i32_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i32.html#method.abs_diff [i64_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i64.html#method.abs_diff [i128_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i128.html#method.abs_diff [isize_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.isize.html#method.abs_diff [u8_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u8.html#method.abs_diff [u16_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u16.html#method.abs_diff [u32_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u32.html#method.abs_diff [u64_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u64.html#method.abs_diff [u128_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u128.html#method.abs_diff [usize_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.usize.html#method.abs_diff [display_error_kind]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/io/enum.ErrorKind.html#impl-Display [from_u8_exit_code]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/process/struct.ExitCode.html#impl-From%3Cu8%3E [not_never]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.never.html#impl-Not [wrapping_assign_ops]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/num/struct.Wrapping.html#trait-implementations [is_aarch64_feature_detected]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/arch/macro.is_aarch64_feature_detected.html
Pkgsrc changes: * Bump available bootstraps to 1.59.0. * Adjust line number in patches which had non-zero offsets. Upstream changes: Version 1.60.0 (2022-04-07) =========================== Language -------- - [Stabilize `#[cfg(panic = "...")]` for either `"unwind"` or `"abort"`.] [93658] - [Stabilize `#[cfg(target_has_atomic = "...")]` for each integer size and `"ptr"`.][93824] Compiler -------- - [Enable combining `+crt-static` and `relocation-model=pic` on `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu`][86374] - [Fixes wrong `unreachable_pub` lints on nested and glob public reexport][87487] - [Stabilize `-Z instrument-coverage` as `-C instrument-coverage`][90132] - [Stabilize `-Z print-link-args` as `--print link-args`][91606] - [Add new Tier 3 target `mips64-openwrt-linux-musl`\*][92300] - [Add new Tier 3 target `armv7-unknown-linux-uclibceabi` (softfloat)\*][92383] - [Fix invalid removal of newlines from doc comments][92357] - [Add kernel target for RustyHermit][92670] - [Deny mixing bin crate type with lib crate types][92933] - [Make rustc use `RUST_BACKTRACE=full` by default][93566] - [Upgrade to LLVM 14][93577] \* Refer to Rust's [platform support page][platform-support-doc] for more information on Rust's tiered platform support. Libraries --------- - [Guarantee call order for `sort_by_cached_key`][89621] - [Improve `Duration::try_from_secs_f32`/`f64` accuracy by directly processing exponent and mantissa][90247] - [Make `Instant::{duration_since, elapsed, sub}` saturating][89926] - [Remove non-monotonic clocks workarounds in `Instant::now`][89926] - [Make `BuildHasherDefault`, `iter::Empty` and `future::Pending` covariant][92630] Stabilized APIs --------------- - [`Arc::new_cyclic`][arc_new_cyclic] - [`Rc::new_cyclic`][rc_new_cyclic] - [`slice::EscapeAscii`][slice_escape_ascii] - [`<[u8]>::escape_ascii`][slice_u8_escape_ascii] - [`u8::escape_ascii`][u8_escape_ascii] - [`Vec::spare_capacity_mut`][vec_spare_capacity_mut] - [`MaybeUninit::assume_init_drop`][assume_init_drop] - [`MaybeUninit::assume_init_read`][assume_init_read] - [`i8::abs_diff`][i8_abs_diff] - [`i16::abs_diff`][i16_abs_diff] - [`i32::abs_diff`][i32_abs_diff] - [`i64::abs_diff`][i64_abs_diff] - [`i128::abs_diff`][i128_abs_diff] - [`isize::abs_diff`][isize_abs_diff] - [`u8::abs_diff`][u8_abs_diff] - [`u16::abs_diff`][u16_abs_diff] - [`u32::abs_diff`][u32_abs_diff] - [`u64::abs_diff`][u64_abs_diff] - [`u128::abs_diff`][u128_abs_diff] - [`usize::abs_diff`][usize_abs_diff] - [`Display for io::ErrorKind`][display_error_kind] - [`From<u8> for ExitCode`][from_u8_exit_code] - [`Not for !` (the "never" type)][not_never] - [_Op_`Assign<$t> for Wrapping<$t>`][wrapping_assign_ops] - [`arch::is_aarch64_feature_detected!`][is_aarch64_feature_detected] Cargo ----- - [Port cargo from `toml-rs` to `toml_edit`][cargo/10086] - [Stabilize `-Ztimings` as `--timings`][cargo/10245] - [Stabilize namespaced and weak dependency features.][cargo/10269] - [Accept more `cargo:rustc-link-arg-*` types from build script output.][cargo/10274] - [cargo-new should not add ignore rule on Cargo.lock inside subdirs][cargo/10379] Misc ---- - [Ship docs on Tier 2 platforms by reusing the closest Tier 1 platform docs][92800] - [Drop rustc-docs from complete profile][93742] - [bootstrap: tidy up flag handling for llvm build][93918] Compatibility Notes ------------------- - [Remove compiler-rt linking hack on Android][83822] - [Mitigations for platforms with non-monotonic clocks have been removed from `Instant::now`][89926]. On platforms that don't provide monotonic clocks, an instant is not guaranteed to be greater than an earlier instant anymore. - [`Instant::{duration_since, elapsed, sub}` do not panic anymore on underflow, saturating to `0` instead][89926]. In the real world the panic happened mostly on platforms with buggy monotonic clock implementations rather than catching programming errors like reversing the start and end times. Such programming errors will now results in `0` rather than a panic. - In a future release we're planning to increase the baseline requirements for the Linux kernel to version 3.2, and for glibc to version 2.17. We'd love your feedback in [PR #95026][95026]. Internal Changes ---------------- These changes provide no direct user facing benefits, but represent significant improvements to the internals and overall performance of rustc and related tools. - [Switch all libraries to the 2021 edition][92068] [83822]: rust-lang/rust#83822 [86374]: rust-lang/rust#86374 [87487]: rust-lang/rust#87487 [89621]: rust-lang/rust#89621 [89926]: rust-lang/rust#89926 [90132]: rust-lang/rust#90132 [90247]: rust-lang/rust#90247 [91606]: rust-lang/rust#91606 [92068]: rust-lang/rust#92068 [92300]: rust-lang/rust#92300 [92357]: rust-lang/rust#92357 [92383]: rust-lang/rust#92383 [92630]: rust-lang/rust#92630 [92670]: rust-lang/rust#92670 [92800]: rust-lang/rust#92800 [92933]: rust-lang/rust#92933 [93566]: rust-lang/rust#93566 [93577]: rust-lang/rust#93577 [93658]: rust-lang/rust#93658 [93742]: rust-lang/rust#93742 [93824]: rust-lang/rust#93824 [93918]: rust-lang/rust#93918 [95026]: rust-lang/rust#95026 [cargo/10086]: rust-lang/cargo#10086 [cargo/10245]: rust-lang/cargo#10245 [cargo/10269]: rust-lang/cargo#10269 [cargo/10274]: rust-lang/cargo#10274 [cargo/10379]: rust-lang/cargo#10379 [arc_new_cyclic]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/sync/struct.Arc.html#method.new_cyclic [rc_new_cyclic]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/rc/struct.Rc.html#method.new_cyclic [slice_escape_ascii]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/slice/struct.EscapeAscii.html [slice_u8_escape_ascii]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.slice.html#method.escape_ascii [u8_escape_ascii]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u8.html#method.escape_ascii [vec_spare_capacity_mut]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/vec/struct.Vec.html#method.spare_capacity_mut [assume_init_drop]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/mem/union.MaybeUninit.html#method.assume_init_drop [assume_init_read]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/mem/union.MaybeUninit.html#method.assume_init_read [i8_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i8.html#method.abs_diff [i16_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i16.html#method.abs_diff [i32_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i32.html#method.abs_diff [i64_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i64.html#method.abs_diff [i128_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.i128.html#method.abs_diff [isize_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.isize.html#method.abs_diff [u8_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u8.html#method.abs_diff [u16_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u16.html#method.abs_diff [u32_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u32.html#method.abs_diff [u64_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u64.html#method.abs_diff [u128_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.u128.html#method.abs_diff [usize_abs_diff]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.usize.html#method.abs_diff [display_error_kind]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/io/enum.ErrorKind.html#impl-Display [from_u8_exit_code]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/process/struct.ExitCode.html#impl-From%3Cu8%3E [not_never]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/primitive.never.html#impl-Not [wrapping_assign_ops]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/num/struct.Wrapping.html#trait-implementations [is_aarch64_feature_detected]: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/arch/macro.is_aarch64_feature_detected.html
Modern
gcc
versions support-static-pie
, andrustc
will already fall-back to-static
if the localgcc
is too old (and hence this change is optimistic rather than absolute). This brings the-musl
and-gnu
targets to feature compatibility (albeit with different default settings).Of note a
-static
or-static-pie
binary based on glibc that uses NSS-backed functions (gethostbyname
orgetpwuid
etc.) need to have access to thelibnss_X.so.2
libraries and any of their dynamic dependencies.I wasn't sure about the
# only
/# ignore
changes (I've not got agnux32
toolchain to test with hence not also enabling-static-pie
there).