option to send text with multiple recipients as multiple sms

[jjculber]

Instead of sending an mms, send each individual the same sms.

[rhodey]

For group messaging you can select "conversation" or "broadcast" mode, broadcast being functionally the same as what you're proposing. Is there any specific reason why you want to avoid MMS all together, even MMS broadcast mode? Just curious :)

[jjculber]

Well broadcast does seem to be similar to what I wanted. I didn't want the conversation mode because when people reply, it goes to everyone else. I guess I have a problem unrelated to this ticket, but MMS doesn't work for me. I can't receive or send them with TextSecure. I've got a Galaxy S4 Active running Android 4.2.2 on AT&T. I've tried putting custom APN settings, but they don't seem to work. I haven't tried to research it further, and I figured if the group message I was sending didn't have pictures or attachments, it should be SMS. I didn't realize that MMS had different modes though.

[rhodey]

Until recently I also was not aware that group messaging was a feature of MMS and not SMS. Sending MMS has become much more difficult for 3rd party text messaging apps like TextSecure because the majority of modern Android devices now forbid 3rd party apps from reading device APN settings. This means that MMS settings for each individual service provider must be hard-coded into the app itself or provided by the user.

I'm in the middle of a pull request #334 to address a couple MMS related issues (group messaging included) and also hope to provide an easier way to verify user provided APN/MMS settings.

[rhodey]

Closing under the idea that existing "Broadcast MMS" option is a viable alternative to literal individual SMS and literal individual SMS is something of a "will not fix" based on the similar direction of most SMS/MMS apps.

[devurandom]

The default Android (CM 10.1) SMS application supports this feature. I need it, because I get free SMS, but not free MMS. In addition MMS are incredibly expensive. If I am not mistaken, MMS also needs an active internet connection, which is also very expensive here. Please reopen.

[jjculber]

I agree. I re-experienced this problem yesterday. Not all of my friends'
phones receive MMS correctly, and if it's just a text message, why send an
MMS in broadcast mode? Is there a technical difference?

Justin
On Dec 28, 2013 10:33 AM, "Dennis Schridde" notifications@github.com
wrote:

The default Android (CM 10.1) SMS application supports this feature. I
need it, because I get free SMS, but not free MMS. In addition MMS are
incredibly expensive. If I am not mistaken, MMS also needs an active
internet connection, which is also very expensive. Please reopen.

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[devurandom]

Regarding the UI issues mentioned in one of the associated bugs:

• If one of the messages fails, you could display the regular error symbol, and in the message details provide a list of destinations that failed.
• For me it is totally acceptable that the replies will not be displayed in the same conversation, but as individual messages. I really just need to send one SMS to several destinations.

[bennibu]

+1
As the app aims to be a replacement for the default sms application the basic sms features should also be working. I also agree with @devurandom that the replies could be displayed as individual messages, this is the same behaviour as in every sms application I have used before.

[zodiaka]

@bennibu
This thread abotut the problem was closed, as others, #1057 #347 #365
I don know, why they have not been merged. But there is still an open tread for the sms multiple recipients issue, wich needs further support: #413

[derWalter]

My GF just lost over 100€ because her SMS invitation to her friends to her birthday party got automatically converted to MMS.
When the phone did not send the MMS she tried it again, resulting a load of MMS. I guess due not being connected to the internet, the phone could not send it. When she finally connected to the net, they flushed out and flooded her friends and now her phone bill.

She has free sms but MMS are horribly expensive.

Maybe you can change that? like giving the users a big phat warning that a tsunami of cost is coming the crush em and giving em the chance to use sms instead of mms!

ps.: conversation feature is mostly not wanted at all, because
most people dont want that all contacts get all the other numbers as well!

[ajgpitch]

I wanna delete WhatsApp - tainted
Yeah. Too much MMS big bill risk.
I was gonna switch to Signal for SMS and secure messaging, but no broadcast SMS means no-can-do. Shame.
I try Hangouts next.
I know many put Google in the same bracket as Facebook, but I don't.

[ajgpitch]

Doh! Hangouts don't do it no more :(

[comamondo]

Me too is missing that option - even receiving MMS is expensive in my country and it's really annoying to copy & paste every text to another contact...

[ineffyble]

It's also worth noting that a Group MMS creates a group chat and exposes the numbers of all recipients to each other, right?

[augustseptember]

I support this feature request as well.
Because:

1. Sending mms is very expensive for me.
2. Not all of my contacts have phones that can receive mms

[paxperscientiam]

Would someone explain like I'm five the distinction between conversation mode and broadcast mode? I don't get it.