Can't send multiple sms

[psohm]

Hello
I have a nexus 4.
I can't send the same SMS to multiple persons. I only tryied unencrypted SMS for this case.
The diffent SMS are noted as "Sending" and it is never sent.
(If I send one SMS, it is working)

regards

[TummyBanana]

This may be related to the issue where the app sends group texts as an MMS message. Do you have MMS set up properly? Several of my friends have problems with this either because they cannot set up MMS or the cost of sending MMS. This is in the UK.

[psohm]

You are totally right.thanks you

This may be related to the issue where the app sends group texts as an MMS
message. Do you have MMS set up properly? Several of my friends have
problems with this either because they cannot set up MMS or the cost of
sending MMS. This is in the UK.

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[SanderGit]

Referring to issue #824
and issue #769

Currently TextSecure (version 2.0.3) cannot fully replace the standard SMS app, at least in Europe. But on KitKat only one SMS app can compose SMS messages by default (when selecting TextSecure, the standard Messages app cannot compose a message anymore).

Issues:

• Currently it is not possible to use the "+" button to send an SMS message to more than one person.
• Making a group is not intended here, because the recipients may differ every time sending a message to multiple people.
• Creating a group is not an acceptable workaround either, because it is both too complicated and too expensive (MMS is very expensive in Europe as mentioned before).

If TextSecure should be able to replace the standard Messages app completely (and I believe there is a strong use case for that), this change would be high on the wish list.

[generalmanager]

I agree with @SanderGit, I really want to be able to send the same SMS to many people and MMS are just out of the question, because they are extremely expensive.

And replacing the standard SMS app is the best selling point for TS there is.
Most people I tell to install it rightfully say that I'm the only one they can talk encrypted to.
But they still use it, because they can use it for all SMS too and it already looks better than the standard Android SMS app.

This way they don't have to make space for the new icon on their homescreen, which is usually cluttered. If they had to, they would put it on screen #3 as soon as I'm out of the room, and never use it.

But if it replaces the SMS app it has an extremely prominent place right on the quick access bar, and people get accustomed to the look and feel because they can still text everybody. It is also opened automatically when they get new texts.

[hunleyd]

+1 to @Lindworm and @SanderGit . multiple sms w/o switching to mms is ideal

[zodiaka]

I agree totally, the option to send one SMS to multiple recipients/a group and not only MMS or push messages is definitley necessary, If Textsecure shall be a complete replacement for the default SMS app My default Android Message app is able to send SMS to multiple recipients.
Unfortunately this issue has been discussed since a longe time, but the former threads have been closed, though the request is still current. Cf. #1057 #347 #365

[psohm]

Hello
In France, a lot of people have MMS free, but very few use them.
A lot of people don't have MMS configured.
And MMS is less reliable than SMS.
Can you add support for SMS for non text secure group ? It is really annoying.

[brcha]

I've just hit this issue. I've been using TextSecure for a while and it is an excellent default SMS replacement. I do have some friends whom I hooked to TS so I can s/r encrypted messages, but, for the most time, I just use it for regular SMS. MMS, on the other hand, is something that nobody is using where I'm at. So, sending SMS to multiple recipients is something that I'd really like to see in this application. If throttling is the problem, I'm pretty sure you could queue up the messages and resend the ones that weren't sent by the system, after some delay.

[IntelligentesTierMaulApollo13]

This functionality is crucial for a successful propagation of TS. As many others mentioned already, MMS is not an option, either because of the costs or because of technical problems. Even I can't get MMS working and that is not because of a lack of knowledge!

[st7]

+1 for @SanderGit
For most people in Germany this is very important, because its very common to send SMS-messages to more than just one recipient. MMS are very expensive here. Therefore, MMS is no option. As @SanderGit mentioned it is not intended to use groups for this. However, it could be useful to have some kind of recipients-lists, so you can easily send a message to the same list of people.

[SammysHP]

Another +1 for this issue.

From the UI side add a selection mode to the list of recipients. Then you can provide two options: send message (sending a SMS) or create group.

[daryltucker]

With CyanogenMod 11 and T-Mobile, I am experiencing similar issues with sending messages to multiple recipients.

In my opinion, a "Group" is less than ideal for me in most circumstances. When sending a group message, all recipients become aware of each other (Imagine CC vs BCC). I would prefer two options: "New Group" and "Mass Text", where the first creates a group (MMS), and the other sends out individual messages (SMS).

Either way, I am unable to send the same message to multiple recipients without much manual work.

[mbunkus]

Yet another »pleeeeeease add this«. Switching to a different SMS client just for this feature is highly annoying, especially as now certain SMS are stored in one client but not the other (most in TS safe for those sent to multiple recipients, they're still inside the stock SMS client).

[mejo-]

+1 from me. It would be awesome to be able to send sms to more than one recipient without having to use groups. If textsecure aims to be a full replacement for the normal SMS apps from android systems, then this feature is critical.

[samtuke]

+1 from me too. Critical feature here.

[boehan]

+1 for this feature. Would make me switch to TextSecure as my standard SMS app

[jjona]

+1, too.

[DavidNiehues]

+1, I would really like this as well.

[su009]

+1 I very much second this! Did cost me a couple of Euros already :-/

[rainerda]

oh please, oh please...

[dendraya]

+1, this is an essential feature, imho. please add it. and if both options are too complex, just get rid of the mms version of group texts, almost nobody wants to use it, anyway.

[kwantenmechaniker]

another +1 for @SanderGit, this is a crucial feature imho.

i have been missing this functionality ever since i switched to ts and worked around it by manually forwarding sms to multiple people, which is annoying to say the least.

it's very clear that this can't work in the same way as ts group chat, and (as far as i'm concerned) it's not intended as such. i'd want this to be a broadcast-only feature, working with both secure and unsecure contacts in the way the standard messaging app does.

please, please add this.

[bisam]

+1 for @generalmanager

I got most of my family to use it because of the "you can use it instead of your SMS app"-argument.

[tknapstad]

+1

The only feature which prevents TS from being an acceptable replacement app.

[gyger]

I'm not sure if SMS is a common communication tool in the states, but it is in several countries in Europe and also in the mountains where datachannels are often not usable. Push Messages are then delivered late or even deactivated to safe battery as it is in the new Battery Saving Options from Android. SMS is in a clear advantage here.

Is there a reason why this feature is not implemented? Or is there an interest in implementing this feature from the developers view?

[mcginty]

Please hold back from the "+1" comments; they make notifications more meaningless for the developers. We know people want multiple SMS. We accept pull requests, but no, additional work on legacy protocols is not in the short-term roadmap.

[psohm]

I agree with you mcginty, people shouldn't +1 but I disagree with your legacy protocols ..
OMHO SMS are not dead and I think a lot of people use TextSecure only for SMS. It is my case and I stopped to use TextSecure because of that feature
MMS are slow, now reliable, and not readable for everyone.
If I send a grouped SMS for my friend which will be transformed to MMS, I'll have some friends who will answer me that they can't read my MMS. I can't ask everyone to have MMS well configured. I know also people who have a simple phone. They doesn't care about MMS.

[st7]

SMS is not a legacy protocol. Yes, it is old. Not legacy. SMS are reliable. That's why this old protocol is still in use very much. Since Android 4.4 there is no proper SMS-App on Android anymore. There is just hangouts, that many people may not want to use. They could switch to TextSecure, but there is this particular missing feature. It a pain. The ability to send SMS is the only reason for me to use TextSecure. As later Android-Version push to the marked this is your chance to close the gap for those who care about privacy.

Anyways, thank you very much for this nearly perfect app.

[VorpalBlade]

The other issue that means SMS should not be considered a legacy problem is that MMS is prohibitively expensive in at least some parts of Europe (such as Sweden). If you want to send messages to multiple persons (some of who might not be using TextSecure), SMS is the only viable option.

[PolynomialDivision]

I don't know if it references to this topic:

When I'm in an Groupchat I can select send "unsafe sms". But when I'm sending this message it's a textsecure message...

[daryltucker]

#1762

[Thunderpig72]

I don't get why this hasn't been added yet. Can we get an update on this topic? Is it on the roadmap at all?

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